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[RT] Fedback-This Week's Most Unusual Covered Call



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Dear Ray,

You mention Option Express...I went there in the beginning and 
punched in for the C chain. Believe it or not, it did show the hodgde 
podge Call...inconsistently...which I thought was based on low volume.

Sincerely,

John



------------------ Reply Separator --------------------
Originally From: "Ray Raffurty" <r.raffurty@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RT] Re: Fedback-This Week's Most Unusual Covered Call
Date: 03/08/2003 05:59pm


Correction:  The cash in lieu of 0.30422 share of Travelers Property 
Casualty Corp. Class A ("TAP.A") Common Stock; plus cash in lieu of 
0.84326 share of Travelers Property Casualty Corp. Class B will be a 
lot more than what I said since TAP.A is at is at $14.40 and B is at 
14.44.  Sorry, but it will be around $16.20 per contract.

Good luck and good trading

Ray Raffurty


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ray Raffurty 
  To: John Cappello ; realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Cc: MedianLine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 5:40 PM
  Subject: [RT] Re: Fedback-This Week's Most Unusual Covered Call


  Hi John,

  If you purchased 100 shares of C and sold 1CLTCC call your are NOT
  completely covered.  In August of 2002 Citigroup spun off it's 
Travelers
  Insurance division http://www.citi.com/citigroup/press/020820a.htm 
and
  distributed the Traveler shares to owners of Citigroup stock in the 
ratio
  described at
  http://www.cboe.com/common/pageviewer.asp?file=02-
454.doc&dir=ttstocksm&head
  =stock%20splits%20%26%20mergers&sec=5

  Since options, including the March 15 CCC calls, where trading at 
the time
  those contracts had to be adjusted to include the shares 
distributed and the
  option symbols where changed to as the LT thus CLTCC is a 
nonconforming
  option.  At the time of the distribution a new series was created 
for
  options sold after that date without the LT symbol to indicate 100 
shares of
  Citigroup only.  In other words if you owned 100 shares of C in 
early August
  2002 and sold (1) 15 CCC call you would be required to deliver both 
the 100
  Citigroup shares PLUS the shares of Travelers you received, if 
exercised,
  and the symbol was changer to CLTCC.  After the distribution date 
if you
  purchased 100 shares of C and sold 1 CCC 15 call you would be 
covered.  As
  far as I know the unusual option symbol is always the nonconforming 
one.

  If you look at the attached chart you will see that in every case 
the option
  with the LT designation is trading at a higher bid and ask for the 
same
  strike than the option without the LT.  This occurs because the 
value of the
  options are determined by adding the value of the various Travelers 
shares
  to the 100 Citigroup shares.

  I don't what Smith Barney told you but CLTCC is a 15 strike, it's 
just for
  more than 100 shares (nonconforming).  If you go to the 
OptionXpress web
  site and go to the calls only option chain you can check a box to 
show the
  nonconforming options.  If the box is checked the LT series shows 
and if it
  is not checked they don't show.

  I believe the quote you got over the week end on CCC was 
erroneous.  There
  may not even be a market in that option currently (in is no longer 
showing
  up).  It is possible that the data from which the various option 
chains are
  created had defaulted to an old quote when it found no new prices.  
Also,
  when you use a website to search for option yielding a high % on 
covered
  calls you must be very careful.  They often do not screen out 
nonconforming
  options but calculate the % gain based on 100 
shares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I
  have been burned this way and learned to check the CBOE's web site 
when
  something looks to good.

  If you entered an order to sell CCC, I would question why your 
broker
  substituted the nonconforming CLTCC and demand it be undone.  He 
should have
  rejected the order or given you the price on CCC.  If, however, you 
entered
  the order to sell CLTCC you need to either close the trade before 
expiration
  or plan to purchase the various Traveler's shares required to be 
covered
  (more commissions).  In this case, perhaps your kindly old broker 
will undo
  the trade..., NOT.  You can always do nothing, but you will be short
  Travelers on 2/24/03 after the options are exercised.  You can then 
buy to
  close the short, but the market has a way of moving to make this 
the worst
  possible outcome, not to mention additional commissions.

  The short will be:   4 shares of Travelers Property Casualty Corp. 
Class A
  ("TAP.A") Common Stock; plus 8 shares of Travelers Property 
Casualty Corp.
  Class B ("TAP.B") Common Stock; plus cash in lieu of 0.30422 share 
of
  Travelers Property Casualty Corp. Class A ("TAP.A") Common Stock; 
plus cash
  in lieu of 0.84326 share of Travelers Property Casualty Corp. Class 
B
  ("TAP.B") Common Stock.

  Also notice that there are 2 "cash in lieu of" components.  This 
means you
  will need to pay out that cash to the option holder ($1.15 per 
contract).
  This cash is probably to adjust for fractional shares that where
  distributed, but which could not be accounted for otherwise.

  I think the odds are against you on this and you will be lucky if 
you only
  take a small loss.  Unfortunately the market does not hand out 
money this
  way.  Occasional there will be small discrepancies in option price 
to stock
  price, pennies or less.  Then professionals will move quickly on 
volume and
  low commissions to close the discrepancy.

  Good luck and good trading,

  Ray Raffurty


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "John Cappello" <jvc689@xxxxxxx>
  To: "Ray Raffurty" <r.raffurty@xxxxxxxx>; 
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Cc: <MedianLine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 2:07 PM
  Subject: Fedback-This Week's Most Unusual Covered Call


  > Dear Ray,
  >
  > I just did a double check with Smith Barney and the correct symbol
  > for the $15 strike price is CLTCC.... which is what I sold. 
Options
  > Express also confirms this. The other designations just further
  > describe the Travelers acquisition from last year...and have 
nothing
  > to do with pricing other than history.
  >
  > When I first looked at this trade, the $17.50 strike price was in 
the
  > profit mode to sell the call and buy the stock...that is now 
close to
  > parity.
  >
  > Hope this helps.
  >
  > Sincerely,
  >
  > John
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > ------------------ Reply Separator --------------------
  > Originally From: "Ray Raffurty" <r.raffurty@xxxxxxxx>
  > Subject: Re: [RT] This Week's Most Unusual Covered Call
  > Date: 03/08/2003 06:54am
  >
  >
  > [Attachment]
  >

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