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Re: [RT] Re: Fedback-This Week's Most Unusual Covered Call



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Correction:  The <FONT face="Courier New" 
size=3>cash in lieu of 0.30422 share of Travelers Property Casualty Corp. Class 
A ("TAP.A") Common Stock; plus cash in lieu of 0.84326 share of Travelers 
Property Casualty Corp. Class B will be a lot more than what I said since TAP.A 
is at is at $14.40 and B is at 14.44.  Sorry, but it will be around $16.20 
per contract.
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Good luck and good 
trading
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Ray 
Raffurty

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  >From: 
  Ray 
  Raffurty 
  To: <A title=jvc689@xxxxxxx 
  href="">John Cappello ; <A 
  title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Cc: <A title=MedianLine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">MedianLine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 5:40 
  PM
  Subject: [RT] Re: Fedback-This Week's 
  Most Unusual Covered Call
  Hi John,If you purchased 100 shares of C and sold 
  1CLTCC call your are NOTcompletely covered.  In August of 2002 
  Citigroup spun off it's TravelersInsurance division <A 
  href="">http://www.citi.com/citigroup/press/020820a.htm 
  anddistributed the Traveler shares to owners of Citigroup stock in the 
  ratiodescribed at<A 
  href="">http://www.cboe.com/common/pageviewer.asp?file=02-454.doc&dir=ttstocksm&head=stock%20splits%20%26%20mergers&sec=5Since 
  options, including the March 15 CCC calls, where trading at the timethose 
  contracts had to be adjusted to include the shares distributed and 
  theoption symbols where changed to as the LT thus CLTCC is a 
  nonconformingoption.  At the time of the distribution a new series 
  was created foroptions sold after that date without the LT symbol to 
  indicate 100 shares ofCitigroup only.  In other words if you owned 
  100 shares of C in early August2002 and sold (1) 15 CCC call you would be 
  required to deliver both the 100Citigroup shares PLUS the shares of 
  Travelers you received, if exercised,and the symbol was changer to 
  CLTCC.  After the distribution date if youpurchased 100 shares of C 
  and sold 1 CCC 15 call you would be covered.  Asfar as I know the 
  unusual option symbol is always the nonconforming one.If you look at 
  the attached chart you will see that in every case the optionwith the LT 
  designation is trading at a higher bid and ask for the samestrike than the 
  option without the LT.  This occurs because the value of theoptions 
  are determined by adding the value of the various Travelers sharesto the 
  100 Citigroup shares.I don't what Smith Barney told you but CLTCC is a 
  15 strike, it's just formore than 100 shares (nonconforming).  If you 
  go to the OptionXpress website and go to the calls only option chain you 
  can check a box to show thenonconforming options.  If the box is 
  checked the LT series shows and if itis not checked they don't 
  show.I believe the quote you got over the week end on CCC was 
  erroneous.  Theremay not even be a market in that option currently 
  (in is no longer showingup).  It is possible that the data from which 
  the various option chains arecreated had defaulted to an old quote when it 
  found no new prices.  Also,when you use a website to search for 
  option yielding a high % on coveredcalls you must be very careful.  
  They often do not screen out nonconformingoptions but calculate the % gain 
  based on 100 shares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Ihave been burned this way 
  and learned to check the CBOE's web site whensomething looks to 
  good.If you entered an order to sell CCC, I would question why your 
  brokersubstituted the nonconforming CLTCC and demand it be undone.  
  He should haverejected the order or given you the price on CCC.  If, 
  however, you enteredthe order to sell CLTCC you need to either close the 
  trade before expirationor plan to purchase the various Traveler's shares 
  required to be covered(more commissions).  In this case, perhaps your 
  kindly old broker will undothe trade..., NOT.  You can always do 
  nothing, but you will be shortTravelers on 2/24/03 after the options are 
  exercised.  You can then buy toclose the short, but the market has a 
  way of moving to make this the worstpossible outcome, not to mention 
  additional commissions.The short will be:   4 shares of 
  Travelers Property Casualty Corp. Class A("TAP.A") Common Stock; plus 8 
  shares of Travelers Property Casualty Corp.Class B ("TAP.B") Common Stock; 
  plus cash in lieu of 0.30422 share ofTravelers Property Casualty Corp. 
  Class A ("TAP.A") Common Stock; plus cashin lieu of 0.84326 share of 
  Travelers Property Casualty Corp. Class B("TAP.B") Common 
  Stock.Also notice that there are 2 "cash in lieu of" components.  
  This means youwill need to pay out that cash to the option holder ($1.15 
  per contract).This cash is probably to adjust for fractional shares that 
  wheredistributed, but which could not be accounted for otherwise.I 
  think the odds are against you on this and you will be lucky if you 
  onlytake a small loss.  Unfortunately the market does not hand out 
  money thisway.  Occasional there will be small discrepancies in 
  option price to stockprice, pennies or less.  Then professionals will 
  move quickly on volume andlow commissions to close the 
  discrepancy.Good luck and good trading,Ray 
  Raffurty----- Original Message -----From: "John Cappello" 
  <jvc689@xxxxxxx>To: "Ray Raffurty" <r.raffurty@xxxxxxxx>; 
  <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Cc: 
  <MedianLine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 2:07 
  PMSubject: Fedback-This Week's Most Unusual Covered Call> 
  Dear Ray,>> I just did a double check with Smith Barney and the 
  correct symbol> for the $15 strike price is CLTCC.... which is what I 
  sold. Options> Express also confirms this. The other designations just 
  further> describe the Travelers acquisition from last year...and have 
  nothing> to do with pricing other than history.>> When I 
  first looked at this trade, the $17.50 strike price was in the> profit 
  mode to sell the call and buy the stock...that is now close to> 
  parity.>> Hope this helps.>> 
  Sincerely,>> John>>>>> 
  ------------------ Reply Separator --------------------> Originally 
  From: "Ray Raffurty" <r.raffurty@xxxxxxxx>> Subject: Re: [RT] 
  This Week's Most Unusual Covered Call> Date: 03/08/2003 
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