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Hello,
Thank Ira for the reply.
I use equity options quote (bid/offer price, bid/offer volume, total
volume traded, and time of sales) to test the accuracy of many
systems. Any software that can give good options quotes should do
very well in the other area - stocks, futures. Reliable Equity
options is the most difficult to get.
QCharts is just hopeless. Their data feed is at the mercy of another
party. So forget about them. Dont waste your time and money.
I was tracking the options quote on CBOE liveoption against the
bloomberg, bid/offer price and bid/offer volume is VERY GOOD. And it
cost only $20! However the TS was really hopeless.
The bid/offer price and bid/offer volume on eSignal is NOT as good as
CBOE. But the TS is quite accurate.
It is very impt to have UNFILTERED TICKS in order for options quote
to be reliable.
DTN IQ claims to have COMPLETELY UNFILTERED TICKS and state of the
art connectivity. So I just like to check with the newsgroup to
confirm.
If that is the case, DTN IQ will be very ideal for me. And it cost
only $44 a mth (paid one year in advance), excluding exchange fees.
Is there any other feed back on other systems?
Best regards,
Chuanren
--- In realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ira" <mr.ira@xxxx> wrote:
> Bob:
>
> In a week this has happened to me twice. Once was during trading
hours and once after hours. How often it will happen in the future
I can't be sure. Could it be the speed of data reception that is
causing it? Creating congestion that good old MSFT can't handle.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: BobR
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 8:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and reliable
stock options feed
>
>
> To quote from Ira's post,
>
> "With Ensign every now an then something happens
> that causes data to not be received. Who is the problem I don't
know. The
> solution is to exit Ensign and reboot it. "
>
> This is exactly what I experienced on the dtn trial with software
other than Ensign, so I don't believe it is an Ensign problem.
Infact Ensign programmers are so good I doubt it is an Ensign
problem. It is either dtn or an internet problem. The connectivity
problem was so bad I did not sign up for the service. Connectivity
has been a major problem with dynastore and the dtn internet feed
over the last year. They just can't seem to make it work solidly
enough for use in trading.
>
> bobr
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ira
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 7:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and reliable
stock options feed
>
>
> I have been a BMI user since 1989. It is my understanding that
eSignal is
> going to discontinue satellite transmission very soon. That
was confirmed
> by them. An exact date has not been established as yet.
>
> I looked into both DTNiq and eSignal as they are the two
platforms that are
> supported by Ensign. Ensign has a new Beta version for DTNiq.
>
> If you sign up for DTNiq you receive both DTNiq and DTN feed.
DTN feed is
> what is necessary to support Ensign. DTNiq provides 1000
possible symbol
> use, which is greater then eSignal.
>
> Costs are substantially different. If you pay month to month
DTN is $70
> plus exchange fees and there is a $95 initiation fee. eSignal
is $129 per
> month for me as a long time user and with a prepay option it is
$99 per
> month. With the prepay option DTNiq is $44.50 per month with
the same
> initiation fee. If you mention my name when you sign up you
will get a $100
> credit as a referral. I will also get the same credit. The
only other
> difference in costs is that if you pay DTNiq on a month to
month basis there
> is a $20 monthly charge for stock options. In both cases you
get all of the
> exchanges on a delayed basis. To get real time data you have to
add the
> exchange fees which are the same no matter who you use. With
DTNiq the
> exchange fees are paid on a month to month basis. If you would
like someone
> to talk to about DTNiq call Jerry Prazan at 1-800-511-0096 EXT
3249. As I
> said earlier mention my name as your referral when you set up
the trial and
> if you decide to sign up permanently.
>
> DTNiq has a very basic charting package, personally I think
that it sucks in
> comparison with Ensign. The options template is excellent
providing all of
> the Greeks and it is laid out very well and is very flexible. A
chart takes
> up about half of the screen and the indicator the other half of
the screen.
> You can bring up several charts of the item if you work with
multiple time
> frames. They have most of indicators that are normally used.
There is no
> template format so you have to do the same chore each time you
change
> charts. This is a personal matter and should be examined by
each individual.
> If you take the trial version there is no cost, you do pay the
full amount
> for exchange fees. They are not pro rated, but if you sign up
then the rest
> of the month is paid for. I took the trial and paid for the
stock exchanges
> and the options exchanges which amounted to $4.00. The
indicators and
> statistics come in real time anyway. At that time I found that
the data
> feed for DTNiq and the CBOE were about the same for the most
heavily traded
> options like IBM, OEX and QQQ. I used 3 different computers,
one with
> DTNiq, one with BMI satellite feed and the third with the CBOE
web site in
> the comparison. Satellite feed was the slowest.
>
> Now to reliability. DTNiq is up 24/7. I have found a couple
of problems
> that don't bother me, but which might bother another trader.
With Bean Oil
> charts the data is correct during the day and is charted with 4
digits. A
> couple of hours after the close when DTNiq is on refresh the
charts are
> brought up with 2 digits so instead of 2100 they read 21. I
have contacted
> tech support about this. With Ensign every now an then
something happens
> that causes data to not be received. Who is the problem I
don't know. The
> solution is to exit Ensign and reboot it. The only other
difference between
> DTNiq and eSignal that I know of is the amount of data
available. DTNiq
> provides data back about 10 yrs. Check this for yourselves as
I am not
> positive about this fact. This is more then enough data than I
need to
> trade.
>
> I hope that this answers most of your questions. Having only
been real time
> for about a week this is about all I can relay. If DTNiq is
like any other
> feed I am sure there will be problems. They do have redundant
systems and
> different servers provide daily and intra day data. Oh! one
other problem.
> I use DSL and a wireless router. I had to open up ports in the
router to
> allow data in. There is a range of ftp ports and tcp ports
that need to be
> opened in order to receive data.
>
> Ira.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "EarlA" <earl.a@xxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and reliable
stock options
> feed
>
>
> > I suggesting sharing the information on DTNIQ with the list.
There are
> many
> > of us using QCharts who are getting very fed up with QuoteCom
and more
> than
> > willing to consider alternatives.
> >
> > Earl
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ira" <mr.ira@xxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 11:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and reliable
stock
> options
> > feed
> >
> >
> > > I have just started to use DTNiq. If you want more
information contact
> me
> > > privately so we don't tie up band width.
> >
> >
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