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Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and reliable stock options feed



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Bob:
 
In a week this has happened to me twice.  Once 
was during trading hours and once after hours.   How often it will 
happen in the future I can't be sure.  Could it be the speed of data 
reception that is causing it?  Creating congestion that good old MSFT can't 
handle. 
 
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  BobR 
  
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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  Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 8:06 
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  Subject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, 
  eSignal and reliable stock options feed
  
  To quote from Ira's post, 
   
  "With Ensign 
  every now an then something happensthat causes data to not be 
  received.  Who is the problem I don't know.  Thesolution is to 
  exit Ensign and reboot it.  "
   
  This is exactly what I experienced on the 
  dtn trial with software other than Ensign, so I don't believe it is an 
  Ensign problem.  Infact Ensign programmers are so good I doubt it is an 
  Ensign problem.  It is either dtn or an internet problem.  The 
  connectivity problem was so bad I did not sign up for the service.  
  Connectivity has been a major problem with dynastore and the dtn internet feed 
  over the last year. They just can't seem to make it work solidly enough 
  for use in trading.
   
  bobr
    
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    Ira 
    
    To: <A 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    
    Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 7:46 
    AM
    Subject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, 
    CBOE, eSignal and reliable stock options feed
    I have been a BMI user since 1989.  It is my 
    understanding that eSignal isgoing to discontinue satellite transmission 
    very soon.  That was confirmedby them.  An exact date has not 
    been established as yet.I looked into both DTNiq and eSignal as they 
    are the two platforms that aresupported by Ensign.  Ensign has a 
    new Beta version for DTNiq.If you sign up for DTNiq you receive both 
    DTNiq and DTN feed.  DTN feed iswhat is necessary to support 
    Ensign.  DTNiq provides 1000 possible symboluse, which is greater 
    then eSignal.Costs are substantially different.  If you pay 
    month to month DTN is $70plus exchange fees and there is a $95 
    initiation fee.  eSignal is $129 permonth for me as a long time 
    user and with a prepay option it is $99 permonth.  With the prepay 
    option DTNiq is $44.50 per month with the sameinitiation fee.  If 
    you mention my name when you sign up you will get a $100credit as a 
    referral. I will also get the same credit.  The only 
    otherdifference in costs is that if you pay DTNiq on a month to month 
    basis thereis a $20 monthly charge for stock options.  In both 
    cases you get all of theexchanges on a delayed basis. To get real time 
    data you have to add theexchange fees which are the same no matter who 
    you use.  With DTNiq theexchange fees are paid on a month to month 
    basis.  If you would like someoneto talk to about DTNiq call Jerry 
    Prazan at 1-800-511-0096 EXT 3249.  As Isaid earlier mention my 
    name as your referral when you set up the trial andif you decide to sign 
    up permanently.DTNiq has a very basic charting package, personally I 
    think that it sucks incomparison with Ensign.  The options template 
    is excellent providing all ofthe Greeks and it is laid out very well and 
    is very flexible. A chart takesup about half of the screen and the 
    indicator the other half of the screen.You can bring up several charts 
    of the item if you work with multiple timeframes.  They have most 
    of indicators that are normally used. There is notemplate format so you 
    have to do the same chore each time you changecharts. This is a personal 
    matter and should be examined by each individual.If you take the trial 
    version there is no cost, you do pay the full amountfor exchange 
    fees.  They are not pro rated, but if you sign up then the restof 
    the month is paid for. I took the trial and paid for the stock 
    exchangesand the options exchanges which amounted to $4.00.  The 
    indicators andstatistics come in real time anyway.  At that time I 
    found that the datafeed for DTNiq and the CBOE were about the same for 
    the most heavily tradedoptions like IBM,  OEX and QQQ.  I used 
    3 different computers, one withDTNiq, one with BMI satellite feed and 
    the third with the CBOE web site inthe comparison. Satellite feed was 
    the slowest.Now to reliability.  DTNiq is up 24/7.  I have 
    found a couple of problemsthat don't bother me, but which might bother 
    another trader.  With Bean Oilcharts the data is correct during the 
    day and is charted with 4 digits.  Acouple of hours after the close 
    when DTNiq is on refresh the charts arebrought up with 2 digits so 
    instead of 2100 they read 21.  I have contactedtech support about 
    this.  With Ensign every now an then something happensthat causes 
    data to not be received.  Who is the problem I don't know.  
    Thesolution is to exit Ensign and reboot it.  The only other 
    difference betweenDTNiq and eSignal that I know of is the amount of data 
    available.  DTNiqprovides data back about 10 yrs.  Check this 
    for yourselves as I am notpositive about this fact. This is more then 
    enough data than I need totrade.I hope that this answers most of 
    your questions.  Having only been real timefor about a week this is 
    about all I can relay.  If DTNiq is like any otherfeed I am sure 
    there will be problems.  They do have redundant systems 
    anddifferent servers provide daily and intra day data.  Oh! one 
    other problem.I use DSL and a wireless router.  I had to open up 
    ports in the router toallow data in.  There is a range of ftp ports 
    and tcp ports that need to beopened in order to receive 
    data.Ira.----- Original Message -----From: "EarlA" 
    <earl.a@xxxxxxxxxx>To: 
    <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:59 
    AMSubject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and reliable stock 
    optionsfeed> I suggesting sharing the information on 
    DTNIQ with the list. There aremany> of us using QCharts who are 
    getting very fed up with QuoteCom and morethan> willing to 
    consider alternatives.>> Earl>> ----- Original 
    Message -----> From: "Ira" <mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> To: 
    <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 
    11:07 PM> Subject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and 
    reliable stockoptions> feed>>> > I have 
    just started to use DTNiq.  If you want more information 
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