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Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and reliable stock options feed



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I don't think it is a speed problem, although if 
you run pingplotter on an internet feed and see all the hops, it looks like 
there are a ton of places where something could go wrong.  Your location 
could make a big difference in connectivity.  
 
bobr
 
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  Ira 

  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 8:15 
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  Subject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, 
  eSignal and reliable stock options feed
  
  Bob:
   
  In a week this has happened to me twice.  
  Once was during trading hours and once after hours.   How often it 
  will happen in the future I can't be sure.  Could it be the speed of data 
  reception that is causing it?  Creating congestion that good old MSFT 
  can't handle. 
   
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    <A title=bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">BobR 
    To: <A 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    
    Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 8:06 
    AM
    Subject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, 
    CBOE, eSignal and reliable stock options feed
    
    To quote from Ira's post, 
     
    "With Ensign 
    every now an then something happensthat causes data to not be 
    received.  Who is the problem I don't know.  Thesolution is to 
    exit Ensign and reboot it.  "
     
    This is exactly what I experienced on the 
    dtn trial with software other than Ensign, so I don't believe it is an 
    Ensign problem.  Infact Ensign programmers are so good I doubt it is an 
    Ensign problem.  It is either dtn or an internet problem.  The 
    connectivity problem was so bad I did not sign up for the service.  
    Connectivity has been a major problem with dynastore and the dtn internet 
    feed over the last year. They just can't seem to make it work solidly 
    enough for use in trading.
     
    bobr
      
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      >From: 
      Ira 
      
      To: <A 
      title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      
      Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 7:46 
      AM
      Subject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, 
      CBOE, eSignal and reliable stock options feed
      I have been a BMI user since 1989.  It is my 
      understanding that eSignal isgoing to discontinue satellite 
      transmission very soon.  That was confirmedby them.  An 
      exact date has not been established as yet.I looked into both 
      DTNiq and eSignal as they are the two platforms that aresupported by 
      Ensign.  Ensign has a new Beta version for DTNiq.If you sign 
      up for DTNiq you receive both DTNiq and DTN feed.  DTN feed 
      iswhat is necessary to support Ensign.  DTNiq provides 1000 
      possible symboluse, which is greater then eSignal.Costs are 
      substantially different.  If you pay month to month DTN is 
      $70plus exchange fees and there is a $95 initiation fee.  eSignal 
      is $129 permonth for me as a long time user and with a prepay option 
      it is $99 permonth.  With the prepay option DTNiq is $44.50 per 
      month with the sameinitiation fee.  If you mention my name when 
      you sign up you will get a $100credit as a referral. I will also get 
      the same credit.  The only otherdifference in costs is that if 
      you pay DTNiq on a month to month basis thereis a $20 monthly charge 
      for stock options.  In both cases you get all of theexchanges on 
      a delayed basis. To get real time data you have to add theexchange 
      fees which are the same no matter who you use.  With DTNiq 
      theexchange fees are paid on a month to month basis.  If you 
      would like someoneto talk to about DTNiq call Jerry Prazan at 
      1-800-511-0096 EXT 3249.  As Isaid earlier mention my name as 
      your referral when you set up the trial andif you decide to sign up 
      permanently.DTNiq has a very basic charting package, personally I 
      think that it sucks incomparison with Ensign.  The options 
      template is excellent providing all ofthe Greeks and it is laid out 
      very well and is very flexible. A chart takesup about half of the 
      screen and the indicator the other half of the screen.You can bring up 
      several charts of the item if you work with multiple timeframes.  
      They have most of indicators that are normally used. There is 
      notemplate format so you have to do the same chore each time you 
      changecharts. This is a personal matter and should be examined by each 
      individual.If you take the trial version there is no cost, you do pay 
      the full amountfor exchange fees.  They are not pro rated, but if 
      you sign up then the restof the month is paid for. I took the trial 
      and paid for the stock exchangesand the options exchanges which 
      amounted to $4.00.  The indicators andstatistics come in real 
      time anyway.  At that time I found that the datafeed for DTNiq 
      and the CBOE were about the same for the most heavily tradedoptions 
      like IBM,  OEX and QQQ.  I used 3 different computers, one 
      withDTNiq, one with BMI satellite feed and the third with the CBOE web 
      site inthe comparison. Satellite feed was the slowest.Now to 
      reliability.  DTNiq is up 24/7.  I have found a couple of 
      problemsthat don't bother me, but which might bother another 
      trader.  With Bean Oilcharts the data is correct during the day 
      and is charted with 4 digits.  Acouple of hours after the close 
      when DTNiq is on refresh the charts arebrought up with 2 digits so 
      instead of 2100 they read 21.  I have contactedtech support about 
      this.  With Ensign every now an then something happensthat causes 
      data to not be received.  Who is the problem I don't know.  
      Thesolution is to exit Ensign and reboot it.  The only other 
      difference betweenDTNiq and eSignal that I know of is the amount of 
      data available.  DTNiqprovides data back about 10 yrs.  
      Check this for yourselves as I am notpositive about this fact. This is 
      more then enough data than I need totrade.I hope that this 
      answers most of your questions.  Having only been real timefor 
      about a week this is about all I can relay.  If DTNiq is like any 
      otherfeed I am sure there will be problems.  They do have 
      redundant systems anddifferent servers provide daily and intra day 
      data.  Oh! one other problem.I use DSL and a wireless 
      router.  I had to open up ports in the router toallow data 
      in.  There is a range of ftp ports and tcp ports that need to 
      beopened in order to receive data.Ira.----- 
      Original Message -----From: "EarlA" <earl.a@xxxxxxxxxx>To: 
      <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:59 
      AMSubject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and reliable stock 
      optionsfeed> I suggesting sharing the information on 
      DTNIQ with the list. There aremany> of us using QCharts who are 
      getting very fed up with QuoteCom and morethan> willing to 
      consider alternatives.>> Earl>> ----- Original 
      Message -----> From: "Ira" <mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> To: 
      <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 
      11:07 PM> Subject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and 
      reliable stockoptions> feed>>> > I have 
      just started to use DTNiq.  If you want more information 
      contactme> > privately so we don't tie up band 
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