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RE: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and reliable stock options feed



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FWIW I tried 
IQ  some months back and couldn't get it to work.
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 The feed kept 
dying as you apparently observe <FONT 
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color=#000000>data not received, requiring a 
reboot>> 
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class=115162621-10032003>My setup used their client data server IQCONNECT.EXE to 
connect 
to interquote servers 207.252.121.220 and higher
<FONT 
face="Courier New">My cable connection seemed okay [pingplotter always 
showed under 150 ms for the 14 hops], but IQ tech support said 
that one bad hop [errs and 100% packet loss] could 
hose  IQCONNECT.EXE.
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The bad hop 
was shown to be my ISP's fault but they wouldn't address it "1 
out of 14 ain't bad".
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<FONT 
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color=#000080>.-----Original 
Message-----From: BobR 
[mailto:bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 8:25 
AMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, 
QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and reliable stock options feed

  I don't think it is a speed problem, although if 
  you run pingplotter on an internet feed and see all the hops, it looks like 
  there are a ton of places where something could go wrong.  Your location 
  could make a big difference in connectivity.  
   
  bobr
   
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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    <DIV 
    >From: 
    Ira 
    
    To: <A 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    
    Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 8:15 
    AM
    Subject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, 
    CBOE, eSignal and reliable stock options feed
    
    Bob:
     
    In a week this has happened to me twice.  
    Once was during trading hours and once after hours.   How often it 
    will happen in the future I can't be sure.  Could it be the speed of 
    data reception that is causing it?  Creating congestion that good old 
    MSFT can't handle. 
     
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      >From: 
      <A title=bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      href="">BobR 
      To: <A 
      title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      
      Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 8:06 
      AM
      Subject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, 
      CBOE, eSignal and reliable stock options feed
      
      To quote from Ira's post, 
       
      "With Ensign 
      every now an then something happensthat causes data to not be 
      received.  Who is the problem I don't know.  Thesolution is 
      to exit Ensign and reboot it.  "
       
      This is exactly what I experienced on the 
      dtn trial with software other than Ensign, so I don't believe it is 
      an Ensign problem.  Infact Ensign programmers are so good I doubt it 
      is an Ensign problem.  It is either dtn or an internet problem.  
      The connectivity problem was so bad I did not sign up for the 
      service.  Connectivity has been a major problem with dynastore and 
      the dtn internet feed over the last year. They just can't seem to 
      make it work solidly enough for use in trading.
       
      bobr
        
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        ----- Original Message ----- 
        <DIV 
        >From: 
        Ira 
        
        To: <A 
        title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        
        Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 7:46 
        AM
        Subject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, 
        CBOE, eSignal and reliable stock options feed
        I have been a BMI user since 1989.  It is my 
        understanding that eSignal isgoing to discontinue satellite 
        transmission very soon.  That was confirmedby them.  An 
        exact date has not been established as yet.I looked into both 
        DTNiq and eSignal as they are the two platforms that aresupported by 
        Ensign.  Ensign has a new Beta version for DTNiq.If you 
        sign up for DTNiq you receive both DTNiq and DTN feed.  DTN feed 
        iswhat is necessary to support Ensign.  DTNiq provides 1000 
        possible symboluse, which is greater then eSignal.Costs are 
        substantially different.  If you pay month to month DTN is 
        $70plus exchange fees and there is a $95 initiation fee.  
        eSignal is $129 permonth for me as a long time user and with a 
        prepay option it is $99 permonth.  With the prepay option DTNiq 
        is $44.50 per month with the sameinitiation fee.  If you 
        mention my name when you sign up you will get a $100credit as a 
        referral. I will also get the same credit.  The only 
        otherdifference in costs is that if you pay DTNiq on a month to 
        month basis thereis a $20 monthly charge for stock options.  In 
        both cases you get all of theexchanges on a delayed basis. To get 
        real time data you have to add theexchange fees which are the same 
        no matter who you use.  With DTNiq theexchange fees are paid on 
        a month to month basis.  If you would like someoneto talk to 
        about DTNiq call Jerry Prazan at 1-800-511-0096 EXT 3249.  As 
        Isaid earlier mention my name as your referral when you set up the 
        trial andif you decide to sign up permanently.DTNiq has a 
        very basic charting package, personally I think that it sucks 
        incomparison with Ensign.  The options template is excellent 
        providing all ofthe Greeks and it is laid out very well and is very 
        flexible. A chart takesup about half of the screen and the indicator 
        the other half of the screen.You can bring up several charts of the 
        item if you work with multiple timeframes.  They have most of 
        indicators that are normally used. There is notemplate format so you 
        have to do the same chore each time you changecharts. This is a 
        personal matter and should be examined by each individual.If you 
        take the trial version there is no cost, you do pay the full 
        amountfor exchange fees.  They are not pro rated, but if you 
        sign up then the restof the month is paid for. I took the trial and 
        paid for the stock exchangesand the options exchanges which amounted 
        to $4.00.  The indicators andstatistics come in real time 
        anyway.  At that time I found that the datafeed for DTNiq and 
        the CBOE were about the same for the most heavily tradedoptions like 
        IBM,  OEX and QQQ.  I used 3 different computers, one 
        withDTNiq, one with BMI satellite feed and the third with the CBOE 
        web site inthe comparison. Satellite feed was the 
        slowest.Now to reliability.  DTNiq is up 24/7.  I have 
        found a couple of problemsthat don't bother me, but which might 
        bother another trader.  With Bean Oilcharts the data is correct 
        during the day and is charted with 4 digits.  Acouple of hours 
        after the close when DTNiq is on refresh the charts arebrought up 
        with 2 digits so instead of 2100 they read 21.  I have 
        contactedtech support about this.  With Ensign every now an 
        then something happensthat causes data to not be received.  Who 
        is the problem I don't know.  Thesolution is to exit Ensign and 
        reboot it.  The only other difference betweenDTNiq and eSignal 
        that I know of is the amount of data available.  DTNiqprovides 
        data back about 10 yrs.  Check this for yourselves as I am 
        notpositive about this fact. This is more then enough data than I 
        need totrade.I hope that this answers most of your 
        questions.  Having only been real timefor about a week this is 
        about all I can relay.  If DTNiq is like any otherfeed I am 
        sure there will be problems.  They do have redundant systems 
        anddifferent servers provide daily and intra day data.  Oh! one 
        other problem.I use DSL and a wireless router.  I had to open 
        up ports in the router toallow data in.  There is a range of 
        ftp ports and tcp ports that need to beopened in order to receive 
        data.Ira.----- Original Message -----From: 
        "EarlA" <earl.a@xxxxxxxxxx>To: 
        <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:59 
        AMSubject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and reliable 
        stock optionsfeed> I suggesting sharing the 
        information on DTNIQ with the list. There aremany> of us 
        using QCharts who are getting very fed up with QuoteCom and 
        morethan> willing to consider alternatives.>> 
        Earl>> ----- Original Message -----> From: "Ira" 
        <mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> To: 
        <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 
        11:07 PM> Subject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and 
        reliable stockoptions> feed>>> > I 
        have just started to use DTNiq.  If you want more information 
        contactme> > privately so we don't tie up band 
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