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Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and reliable stock options feed



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To quote from Ira's post, 
 
"With Ensign every 
now an then something happensthat causes data to not be received.  Who 
is the problem I don't know.  Thesolution is to exit Ensign and reboot 
it.  "
 
This is exactly what I experienced on the 
dtn trial with software other than Ensign, so I don't believe it is an 
Ensign problem.  Infact Ensign programmers are so good I doubt it is an 
Ensign problem.  It is either dtn or an internet problem.  The 
connectivity problem was so bad I did not sign up for the service.  
Connectivity has been a major problem with dynastore and the dtn internet feed 
over the last year. They just can't seem to make it work solidly enough for 
use in trading.
 
bobr
  
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV 
  >From: 
  Ira 

  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 7:46 
AM
  Subject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, 
  eSignal and reliable stock options feed
  I have been a BMI user since 1989.  It is my 
  understanding that eSignal isgoing to discontinue satellite transmission 
  very soon.  That was confirmedby them.  An exact date has not 
  been established as yet.I looked into both DTNiq and eSignal as they 
  are the two platforms that aresupported by Ensign.  Ensign has a new 
  Beta version for DTNiq.If you sign up for DTNiq you receive both DTNiq 
  and DTN feed.  DTN feed iswhat is necessary to support Ensign.  
  DTNiq provides 1000 possible symboluse, which is greater then 
  eSignal.Costs are substantially different.  If you pay month to 
  month DTN is $70plus exchange fees and there is a $95 initiation 
  fee.  eSignal is $129 permonth for me as a long time user and with a 
  prepay option it is $99 permonth.  With the prepay option DTNiq is 
  $44.50 per month with the sameinitiation fee.  If you mention my name 
  when you sign up you will get a $100credit as a referral. I will also get 
  the same credit.  The only otherdifference in costs is that if you 
  pay DTNiq on a month to month basis thereis a $20 monthly charge for stock 
  options.  In both cases you get all of theexchanges on a delayed 
  basis. To get real time data you have to add theexchange fees which are 
  the same no matter who you use.  With DTNiq theexchange fees are paid 
  on a month to month basis.  If you would like someoneto talk to about 
  DTNiq call Jerry Prazan at 1-800-511-0096 EXT 3249.  As Isaid earlier 
  mention my name as your referral when you set up the trial andif you 
  decide to sign up permanently.DTNiq has a very basic charting package, 
  personally I think that it sucks incomparison with Ensign.  The 
  options template is excellent providing all ofthe Greeks and it is laid 
  out very well and is very flexible. A chart takesup about half of the 
  screen and the indicator the other half of the screen.You can bring up 
  several charts of the item if you work with multiple timeframes.  
  They have most of indicators that are normally used. There is notemplate 
  format so you have to do the same chore each time you changecharts. This 
  is a personal matter and should be examined by each individual.If you take 
  the trial version there is no cost, you do pay the full amountfor exchange 
  fees.  They are not pro rated, but if you sign up then the restof the 
  month is paid for. I took the trial and paid for the stock exchangesand 
  the options exchanges which amounted to $4.00.  The indicators 
  andstatistics come in real time anyway.  At that time I found that 
  the datafeed for DTNiq and the CBOE were about the same for the most 
  heavily tradedoptions like IBM,  OEX and QQQ.  I used 3 
  different computers, one withDTNiq, one with BMI satellite feed and the 
  third with the CBOE web site inthe comparison. Satellite feed was the 
  slowest.Now to reliability.  DTNiq is up 24/7.  I have found 
  a couple of problemsthat don't bother me, but which might bother another 
  trader.  With Bean Oilcharts the data is correct during the day and 
  is charted with 4 digits.  Acouple of hours after the close when 
  DTNiq is on refresh the charts arebrought up with 2 digits so instead of 
  2100 they read 21.  I have contactedtech support about this.  
  With Ensign every now an then something happensthat causes data to not be 
  received.  Who is the problem I don't know.  Thesolution is to 
  exit Ensign and reboot it.  The only other difference betweenDTNiq 
  and eSignal that I know of is the amount of data available.  
  DTNiqprovides data back about 10 yrs.  Check this for yourselves as I 
  am notpositive about this fact. This is more then enough data than I need 
  totrade.I hope that this answers most of your questions.  
  Having only been real timefor about a week this is about all I can 
  relay.  If DTNiq is like any otherfeed I am sure there will be 
  problems.  They do have redundant systems anddifferent servers 
  provide daily and intra day data.  Oh! one other problem.I use DSL 
  and a wireless router.  I had to open up ports in the router toallow 
  data in.  There is a range of ftp ports and tcp ports that need to 
  beopened in order to receive data.Ira.----- Original 
  Message -----From: "EarlA" <earl.a@xxxxxxxxxx>To: 
  <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:59 
  AMSubject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and reliable stock 
  optionsfeed> I suggesting sharing the information on DTNIQ 
  with the list. There aremany> of us using QCharts who are getting 
  very fed up with QuoteCom and morethan> willing to consider 
  alternatives.>> Earl>> ----- Original Message 
  -----> From: "Ira" <mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> To: 
  <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 11:07 
  PM> Subject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and reliable 
  stockoptions> feed>>> > I have just started 
  to use DTNiq.  If you want more information contactme> > 
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