Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and reliable stock options feed

["Ira" <mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I have been a BMI user since 1989.  It is my understanding that eSignal is
going to discontinue satellite transmission very soon.  That was confirmed
by them.  An exact date has not been established as yet.

I looked into both DTNiq and eSignal as they are the two platforms that are
supported by Ensign.  Ensign has a new Beta version for DTNiq.

If you sign up for DTNiq you receive both DTNiq and DTN feed.  DTN feed is
what is necessary to support Ensign.  DTNiq provides 1000 possible symbol
use, which is greater then eSignal.

Costs are substantially different.  If you pay month to month DTN is $70
plus exchange fees and there is a $95 initiation fee.  eSignal is $129 per
month for me as a long time user and with a prepay option it is $99 per
month.  With the prepay option DTNiq is $44.50 per month with the same
initiation fee.  If you mention my name when you sign up you will get a $100
credit as a referral. I will also get the same credit.  The only other
difference in costs is that if you pay DTNiq on a month to month basis there
is a $20 monthly charge for stock options.  In both cases you get all of the
exchanges on a delayed basis. To get real time data you have to add the
exchange fees which are the same no matter who you use.  With DTNiq the
exchange fees are paid on a month to month basis.  If you would like someone
to talk to about DTNiq call Jerry Prazan at 1-800-511-0096 EXT 3249.  As I
said earlier mention my name as your referral when you set up the trial and
if you decide to sign up permanently.

DTNiq has a very basic charting package, personally I think that it sucks in
comparison with Ensign.  The options template is excellent providing all of
the Greeks and it is laid out very well and is very flexible. A chart takes
up about half of the screen and the indicator the other half of the screen.
You can bring up several charts of the item if you work with multiple time
frames.  They have most of indicators that are normally used. There is no
template format so you have to do the same chore each time you change
charts. This is a personal matter and should be examined by each individual.
If you take the trial version there is no cost, you do pay the full amount
for exchange fees.  They are not pro rated, but if you sign up then the rest
of the month is paid for. I took the trial and paid for the stock exchanges
and the options exchanges which amounted to $4.00.  The indicators and
statistics come in real time anyway.  At that time I found that the data
feed for DTNiq and the CBOE were about the same for the most heavily traded
options like IBM,  OEX and QQQ.  I used 3 different computers, one with
DTNiq, one with BMI satellite feed and the third with the CBOE web site in
the comparison. Satellite feed was the slowest.

Now to reliability.  DTNiq is up 24/7.  I have found a couple of problems
that don't bother me, but which might bother another trader.  With Bean Oil
charts the data is correct during the day and is charted with 4 digits.  A
couple of hours after the close when DTNiq is on refresh the charts are
brought up with 2 digits so instead of 2100 they read 21.  I have contacted
tech support about this.  With Ensign every now an then something happens
that causes data to not be received.  Who is the problem I don't know.  The
solution is to exit Ensign and reboot it.  The only other difference between
DTNiq and eSignal that I know of is the amount of data available.  DTNiq
provides data back about 10 yrs.  Check this for yourselves as I am not
positive about this fact. This is more then enough data than I need to
trade.

I hope that this answers most of your questions.  Having only been real time
for about a week this is about all I can relay.  If DTNiq is like any other
feed I am sure there will be problems.  They do have redundant systems and
different servers provide daily and intra day data.  Oh! one other problem.
I use DSL and a wireless router.  I had to open up ports in the router to
allow data in.  There is a range of ftp ports and tcp ports that need to be
opened in order to receive data.

Ira.


----- Original Message -----
From: "EarlA" <earl.a@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and reliable stock options
feed


> I suggesting sharing the information on DTNIQ with the list. There are
many
> of us using QCharts who are getting very fed up with QuoteCom and more
than
> willing to consider alternatives.
>
> Earl
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ira" <mr.ira@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 11:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [RT] DTN IQ, QCharts, CBOE, eSignal and reliable stock
options
> feed
>
>
> > I have just started to use DTNiq.  If you want more information contact
me
> > privately so we don't tie up band width.
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