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Re: [RT] Digest Number 1264 and recent virus infection



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If you do not already have an antivirus program 
already installed you can get one here free 
<A 
href="">http://www.grisoft.com
 
This product AVG can be set to update itself and is 
quite decent. You can have it up and running in about 10 minutes. While it 
is free to North American customers it is NOT free to other areas e.g. Europe. 
If you use it make sure that you have it set to check your emails and to update 
itself and scan your computer automatically. I have it running in the middle of 
the night when it takes about 40 minutes to scan a 40gig computer. No problems 
in several years of use
 
If you want a quick free online scan to see if you 
are infected there are several choices including
 
- Trendmicro housecall at <A 
href="">http://housecall.trendmicro.com/
 
- pcpitstop at <A 
href="">http://pcpitstop.com/antivirus/AV.asp
 
A pretty decent article on "safe computing" and 
preventing email viruses is at <A 
href="">http://www.yourtechonline.com/virus.shtml
 
If you are open to viruses you are also open to 
trojans which can be a lot more insidious since they can capture your personal 
information and I would suggest downloading at least a trial version of one of 
the antitrojan software packages e.g.
 
ANTS - freeware at <A 
href="">http://www.angelfire.com/comics/inferno/pops/ants.html
 
Tauscan - <A 
href="">http://www.agnitum.com/. Has a free 
trial
 
TDS3 - more thorough but also requires a higher 
'geek quotient'. Has a 30 day trial at <A 
href="">http://www.diamondcs.com.au/
 
Sygate, the makers of an excellent free software 
firewall has an online trojan vulnerability scan at <A 
href="">http://scan.sygatetech.com/trojanscan.html  
This will tell you if ports used by common trojans are open on your machine and 
alert you to possible infection
 
One other thing I use is software called RegProt 
which runs in the background (using minimal resources) and which alerts you if 
something is trying to write to your registry (which most viruses and trojans 
and other 'malware' will attempt to do). It is from the same people that produce 
TDS3 above and you can read about it and download it here:
<A 
href="">http://www.diamondcs.com.au/web/htm/regprot.htm
 
Finally in your email program there is usually a 
choice which to :
1. turn off the preview pane. In Outlook express 
this is by going to View>Layout and unchecking the 'view preview pane' box. 
Some viruses and scripts can execute just by opening them in the preview panel - 
if this is unchecked you can examine the attachments before the message is 
previewed
2. Stop your emailer, especialy OE which is often 
the target of such virus attacks from sending email without your knowledge by 
going to TOOLS>Options>Security and check the "warn if other program tries 
to send email as me". Will make you aware if a virus is trying to send out to 
people in your address book
3. If really paranoid, on this same 'Security" tab 
check the box that says "do not allow attachments to be downloaded and opened 
which could potentially be a virus. This will block just about everything but 
the downside is that you cannot open many safe attachments without first 
examining them and then unchecking the box. However within 5 minutes of a virus 
being propogated someone on the list has alerted everyone and having this option 
checked will allow you to delete the offending email with impunity. Later you 
can go back and uncheck the box and download the attachments you need. I 
personally do not use this since I have made myself pretty resistant to viruses, 
trojans, scripts, scrap files etc (touch wood)
 
Hope that helps. With so much good freeware out 
there there is absolutely no reason to put yourself at risk despite the 
opinion of the propogator of this latest virus round. Be safe out there 
:-)
 
 Bob
 
 
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV 
  >From: 
  <A title=grehert@xxxxxxxxx 
  href="">grehert@xxxxxxxxx 
  To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 5:59 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [RT] Digest Number 
1264
  
  Apparently a virus has been disseminated 
  through this email list.  Would someone advise the group how to check if 
  our individual computers are infected?  
   
  G. Rehert
  <BLOCKQUOTE 
  >
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    <DIV 
    >From: 
    <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    
    To: <A 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    
    Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 3:54 
    AM
    Subject: [RT] Digest Number 1264
    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:<A 
    href="">realtraders-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx------------------------------------------------------------------------There 
    are 9 messages in this issue.Topics in this 
    digest:      1. Re: Re: So when's the 
    low?/BOTTOM?           
    From: Dom Perrino <<A 
    href="">acutimer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>      
    2. Fibonacci techniques for timing 
    markets           
    From: Neal Hughes <<A 
    href="">traderr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>      
    3. Re: A very  funny 
    website/virus           
    From: "erdely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" 
    <<A 
    href="">erdely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>      
    4. Security Alert -- massive flood against UPD port 
    1434           From: 
    Mark Jurik <<A 
    href="">mark@xxxxxxxxxxxx>      
    5. RE: Security Alert -- massive flood against UPD port 1434  
    (UPDATE)           
    From: Mark Jurik <<A 
    href="">mark@xxxxxxxxxxxx>      
    6. Re: A very  funny 
    website/virus           
    From: "tradewynne <<A 
    href="">tradewynne@xxxxxxxxx>" <<A 
    href="">tradewynne@xxxxxxxxx>      
    7. Re: A very  funny 
    website/virus           
    From: "Bob" <<A 
    href="">sampah2002@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>      
    8. Re: Re: So when's the 
    low?/BOTTOM?           
    From: BobsKC <<A 
    href="">bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>      
    9. Re: [MedianLine] Constant Range Bars and 
    PF           From: 
    "BobR" <<A 
    href="">bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 
    1   Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:21:48 -0500   
    From: Dom Perrino <<A 
    href="">acutimer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: 
    Re: Re: So when's the low?/BOTTOM?Bob,   I did not 
    comment or respond to your below email. After thinking about it I came to 
    the conclusion that not to respond would not be appropriate as it would not 
    address the issue(s) that may have resulted in any misunderstanding(s) from 
    the exchange(s) between myself and Ben in the emails that culminated in your 
    below comment. In addition by not doing so I would be committing an act of 
    omission( looking the other way ). Acts of omissions have in history proven 
    as dangerous and many times even more dangerous than acts of commission. As 
    a result this response.   Ben and I have been friends and now 
    each on personal basis for over twenty years.I first met Ben when I was a 
    stockbroker with a major NYC brokerage firm.He was a client of another 
    broker in that particular office where he would frequently stop in. We 
    became friends very quickly as we were both very interested in the stock 
    market and the commodities markets as well. In short I know Ben in the 
    person. I know his strong points and his weak points and he knows mine. 
    Friends also at times have disagreements. Most of our personal disagreements 
    are private. I have a tendency to be precise and exact. Ben has a tendency 
    not to be as exact. That could be due to the fact that I was previously in 
    the accounting field. In any event I made the mistake of not sending private 
    email this time. This may have caused him to lose his cool, which he rarely 
    does. But the main point, after giving this very brief background, is that I 
    never considered Ben as a second language person and still don't. When that 
    first surfaced on your below email I did not even know what you were talking 
    about. I am a good technical analysis person but not very good at computers 
    ( that's Ben end, that's not to say he is not good at technical analysis ), 
    I thought you may have been referring to Computer Language. The idea of Ben 
    having English as a second language was never a problem with me. The problem 
    I did have and still do is his presentation of his material. It's all that 
    simple, this whole misunderstanding.Regards,   Dom 
    Perrino<A 
    href="">dperrino@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<A 
    href="">domperrino@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  
                                                                                                                                          
    ----- Original Message -----   From: BobsKC   To: <A 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 1:53 PM  Subject: Re: 
    [RT] Re: So when's the low?/BOTTOM?  Ben, (as he has said 
    many, many, times on this list), does not speak english as his first 
    language and I think that on rare occasion, people may misconstrue his 
    meaning.  Even so, he is very generous to share his thoughts and to 
    some degree, his methodologies with the list on a regular basis.  I am 
    sure he meant no insult to you.  Earnings nailed the dead cat 
    bounce today but it is still due.  Bob  At 
    12:09 PM 1/22/2003 -0500, you wrote:    No need to 
    get defensive. Not everyone has the system and keeping track of entries and 
    exit points would enhance understanding of each entry and exit point and 
    would show results in real time.  
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: profitok 
          To: <A 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 
    11:13 AM      Subject: Re: [RT] Re: So 
    when's the low?/BOTTOM?      the  
    profit taking index,  the  long term trading and the  perfect 
    stop loss are tools,  you need your brain to use  the tools to 
    make a  call      see work doc in poor 
    English that tries to explain the 
    tools      as for the 
    system      I gave the free version  
    to hundreds  of people      and with 
    the GREAT feed back  it is using  YOUR  suggestions that 
    contributes to IMPROVING the system      
    (for the next version)      have a great 
    trading day      
    Ben      ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Acutimer 
          To: <A 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 
    8:44 AM      Subject: Re: [RT] Re: So 
    when's the low?/BOTTOM?      If this 
    system is going to be in metastock,amibroker and ts is it going to be able 
    to change signals after reevaluating p/c ratio or other criteria after 
    signal is already given or is system not yet completed?  
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: profitok 
          To: <A 
    href="">wheelsinthesky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Cc: <A 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; 
    ntt-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; <A 
    href="">panda2222@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:50 
    PM      Subject: [RT] Re: So when's the 
    low?/BOTTOM?      I was a little early 
    today to close 1/2 of my shorts at 
    895.3,,      I have a gtc to buy the other 
    1/2 at 884.45,,to close rest of 
    shorts,      there is  a better than 
    80% probability we make a lower low 
    tomorrow,      on the bottom of this 
    message  are the profit taking index  that says 
    :close      your shorts(gif 
    z12103)      long term trading says we 
    could go  another 10-15  before a 
    bottom(gif      
    long12103)      and the perfect stop 
    loss(gif  showing lines lmn) is  at the 
    following      levels(gif 
    lmn12103)      900.65  buy to close 
    if  884.45 not met      
    901.75   go long  25%      
    910.05   go long  75%      
    911.80   long100%      any 
    questions?      all 3 propriety but avail 
    soon  in metastock,amibroker and 
    TS      
    Ben      <A 
    href="">profitok@xxxxxxxxxxxxx      
    ----- Original Message -----      From: 
    <<A 
    href="">bltrading@xxxxxxx>      
    To: <<A 
    href="">wheelsinthesky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>      
    Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 6:33 
    PM      Subject: [wheelsinthesky] So when's 
    the low?      > I must have seen 
    at least a dozen posts predicting a low 
    between      > Friday and Tuesday in the 
    890s.  I don't have a timing cluster 
    until      > this weekend but SPX883 
    sure has ALOT going for it.  If that breaks 
    I      > wouldn't expect 868 to 
    hold.      
    >      
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    2   Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:59:00 -0800   
    From: Neal Hughes <<A 
    href="">traderr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: 
    Fibonacci techniques for timing marketsHi RealTraders,The 
    following is educational content extracted from my website, contributed 
    here for your enjoyment... Although this example is an S&P trade 
    (e-mini), the techniques are transferable to stocks and other 
    instruments. This technique is best applied when there is ample 
    liquidity, and a good trend.This is not a "trading system", nor is 
    it perfect. It is one of several great entry/exit techniques that can 
    give you an edge in a trending market.There is more to trading than just 
    entry and exit techniques... My intention is not to outline a complete 
    trading methodology here.Best wishes as we approach some important 
    Fibonacci support areas in the markets next week!-Neal 
    Hughes.---------------------------"Trade of the day Fri Jan 
    24"We had more great trades in the chat room today. 20 points on NQ 
    overnight as well as 14.5 points on S&P, and similar on the Dow YM.. 
    Well done Streeter!Today I want to focus on a follow-up on the 
    training seminar I did on Thursday. The entry rules were explained in 
    the seminar, and I was actually juggling this trade while preparing the 
    seminar for distribution.I don't expect anyone to jump into a trade 
    right after I've done a training session, but the entry was clear, and 
    the gains substantial.This seminar was for subscribers only, but 
    this trade-of-the-day will hi-light some of the key 
    principles.The over-all perspective is that we were in a down-trend 
    on the daily chart (MACD, RSI,etc), so looking to short the intra-day 
    chart. We resisted at a Fibonacci level, .618 at about 889 on the ES 
    chart. Shortly there-after the Stochastic fast line (blue) closed below 
    the slow line (red) triggering the entry, in the region of 885. My own 
    entry was more like 883 though, since I was juggling some conversations 
    and preparing a seminar...Intraday 15 minute chart:<<A 
    href="">http://www.fibmarkets.com/YaBBImages/Attachments/030124_es_tod_15.gif>The 
    seminar yesterday did not extend to exit rules, so the following is 
    unrelated to the seminar.One part of trading that traders 
    struggle with, is letting profits run. In this case, the 10-minute 
    Stochastic kept us in the trade all the way down to the bottom at 866. 
    See 10-minute chart for these details.. The exit area is marked on the 
    chart.Intraday 15 minute chart:<<A 
    href="">http://www.fibmarkets.com/YaBBImages/Attachments/030124_es_tod_10.gif>In 
    this case the market went on beyond the profit objective. This can 
    happen, and should be expected. It's not realistic to capture every 
    dollar of every move, especially with just one 
    technique..Another great day in the markets! Join us every day, 
    [reference to website and chat room deleted out of respect for 
    spam-sensitive list members].-Neal.[This message 
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    3   Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:20:18 -0500   
    From: "erdely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" 
    <<A 
    href="">erdely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: 
    Re: A very  funny website/virusOriginal 
    Message:-----------------From: Bob <A 
    href="">sampah2002@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxDate: 
    Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:49:48 -0500To: <A 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: 
    Re: [RT] A very  funny website/virus----- Original 
    Message -----From: <<A 
    href="">erdely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: 
    <<A 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: 
    Friday, January 24, 2003 10:14 PMSubject: Re: [RT] A very funny 
    website/virus>>> add my name back to the list, the 
    infected computer has been replaced.>After successfully 
    trading these markets for over 40 years, the cost of thecomputer is 
    irrelevant.> <A 
    href="">erdely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <A 
    href="">ederdely@xxxxxxx>A good, 
    regularly update antivirus program is a LOT more cost effectivethan 
    replacing the computer . You can download a free one at<A 
    href="">www.grisoft.com. BobTo 
    unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:<A 
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    .________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 
    4   Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:06:19 -0700   
    From: Mark Jurik <<A 
    href="">mark@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: 
    Security Alert -- massive flood against UPD port 1434Jan 25, 
    10am  Sometime late lastnight my ATT cable shot up to 99% 
    utilization and continues to do so 10 hours later. On checking my firewall, 
    I discovered numerous computers trying to access UDP port 1434 on my 
    computer. Seems like a DDS attack gone amuck.If you have cable/DSL 
    and are always online without a firewall, you may want to get your O/S to 
    temporarily disable UDP port 1434.  - mark 
    jurik=================================================================================PS 
    - Here is a sample of my firewall report:JAN 25 11:19:06 2003IP 
    Packet discarded from 209.202.216.54 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 
    (UDP)JAN 25 11:13:56 2003IP Packet discarded from 130.243.8.153 
    to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25 11:02:56 2003IP Packet 
    discarded from 216.148.227.68 to 12.254.77.80 for port 29493 
    (UDP)JAN 25 10:59:43 2003IP Packet discarded from 208.57.243.220 
    to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25 10:49:51 2003IP Packet 
    discarded from 212.113.161.133 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 
    (UDP)JAN 25 10:48:40 2003IP Packet discarded from 209.73.224.142 
    to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25 10:46:41 2003IP Packet 
    discarded from 212.19.197.98 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 
    25 10:43:39 2003IP Packet discarded from 65.163.241.18 to 12.254.77.80 
    for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25 10:41:36 2003IP Packet discarded from 
    217.22.192.119 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25 10:40:44 
    2003IP Packet discarded from 64.53.181.2 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 
    (UDP)JAN 25 10:40:03 2003IP Packet discarded from 
    216.140.239.162 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25 10:35:03 
    2003IP Packet discarded from 65.118.28.230 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 
    (UDP)JAN 25 10:34:22 2003IP Packet discarded from 210.238.195.14 
    to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25 10:31:10 2003IP Packet 
    discarded from 168.156.112.177 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 
    (UDP)JAN 25 10:29:15 2003IP Packet discarded from 12.144.155.21 
    to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25 10:29:08 2003IP Packet 
    discarded from 209.202.216.54 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 
    25 10:24:36 2003IP Packet discarded from 62.118.252.82 to 12.254.77.80 
    for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25 10:23:44 2003IP Packet discarded from 
    218.30.21.201 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 
    (UDP)________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 
    5   Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:26:58 -0700   
    From: Mark Jurik <<A 
    href="">mark@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: RE: 
    Security Alert -- massive flood against UPD port 1434  
    (UPDATE)The UDP port 1434 attack seems to be directed at 
    servers.For more information on this and a significant security flaw 
    in Windows XP, go to Gibson Research site at ...<A 
    href="">http://grc.com/default.htm- 
    mark 
    jurik________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 
    6   Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 20:06:09 -0000   
    From: "tradewynne <<A 
    href="">tradewynne@xxxxxxxxx>" <<A 
    href="">tradewynne@xxxxxxxxx>Subject: 
    Re: A very  funny website/virus> After successfully trading 
    these markets for over 40 years, the cost of the computer is 
    irrelevant.> > erdely@x...> 
    > ederdely@x...We are all glad to 
    hear it, but the AV software may save otherstrouble: do you realize you 
    sent viruses to the entire list and probably everyone else in your 
    address book? There is a good chancesome of them who (like you) don't 
    have AV software will be sendingthis same virus back to you again and 
    again....unless you buy them newcomputers too ;-)....As Bob 
    said:You can download a free one at> <A 
    href="">www.grisoft.com.> >  
    BobOr you can flush money down to toilet, muck upthe list, and 
    your friends' and family's computers,for no good 
    reason....--- In <A 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 
    "erdely@x..." <<A 
    href="">erdely@x...> wrote:> > > 
    Original Message:> -----------------> From: Bob <A 
    href="">sampah2002@x...> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 
    2003 00:49:48 -0500> To: <A 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
    Subject: Re: [RT] A very  funny website/virus> > > 
    > ----- Original Message -----> From: <<A 
    href="">erdely@x...>> To: <<A 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
    Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:14 PM> Subject: Re: [RT] A very 
    funny website/virus> >> >> > add my name back 
    to the list, the infected computer has been replaced.> 
    >> > After successfully trading these markets for over 40 
    years, the cost of the> computer is irrelevant.> > <A 
    href="">erdely@x...> > <A 
    href="">ederdely@x...> >> > A 
    good, regularly update antivirus program is a LOT more cost 
    effective> than replacing the computer . You can download a free 
    one at> www.grisoft.com.> 
    >  Bob> > > To unsubscribe from this group, 
    send an email to:> <A 
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    <A 
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    7   Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 14:50:18 -0500   
    From: "Bob" <<A 
    href="">sampah2002@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: 
    Re: A very  funny website/virusMaybe the cost to you of just 
    buying a new computer is "irrelevant".However what is the cost to others 
    on the list of this new, unprotectedcomputer potentially spreading 
    viruses again? Is that just asirrelevant? Do yourself and others a favor 
    and get an antivirus programand keep it 
    updated Bob----- Original Message -----From: <<A 
    href="">erdely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: 
    <<A 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: 
    Saturday, January 25, 2003 1:20 PMSubject: Re: [RT] A very funny 
    website/virus>>> Original Message:> 
    -----------------> From: Bob <A 
    href="">sampah2002@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
    Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:49:48 -0500> To: <A 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
    Subject: Re: [RT] A very  funny 
    website/virus>>>> ----- Original Message 
    -----> From: <<A 
    href="">erdely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> To: 
    <<A 
    href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
    Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:14 PM> Subject: Re: [RT] A very 
    funny website/virus> >> >> > add my name back 
    to the list, the infected computer has beenreplaced.> 
    >>> After successfully trading these markets for over 40 
    years, the costof the> computer is irrelevant.> > <A 
    href="">erdely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > <A 
    href="">ederdely@xxxxxxx> 
    >>> A good, regularly update antivirus program is a LOT 
    more costeffective> than replacing the computer . You can 
    download a free one at> <A 
    href="">www.grisoft.com.>>  
    Bob>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email 
    to:> <A 
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    8   Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:10:51 -0500   
    From: BobsKC <<A 
    href="">bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: 
    Re: Re: So when's the low?/BOTTOM?I did not and do not, doubt your 
    honor and lack of adversity in your original 
    post.BobAt 10:21 AM 1/25/2003 -0500, you 
    wrote:>Bob,>    I did not comment or respond to 
    your below email. After thinking about i=>t I came to the conclusion 
    that not to respond would not be appropriate as =>it would not 
    address the issue(s) that may have resulted in any 
    misundersta=>nding(s) from the exchange(s) between myself and Ben in 
    the emails that cul=>minated in your below comment. In addition by 
    not doing so I would be commi=>tting an act of omission( looking the 
    other way ). Acts of omissions have i=>n history proven as dangerous 
    and many times even more dangerous than acts =>of commission. As a 
    result this response.>    Ben and I have been friends 
    and now each on personal basis for over twen=>ty years.I first met 
    Ben when I was a stockbroker with a major NYC brokerag=>e firm.He was 
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    9   Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:26:39 -0800   
    From: "BobR" <<A 
    href="">bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: 
    Re: [MedianLine] Constant Range Bars and PFAttached are two NQH3 
    charts that might be of interest to some.  The RangeTimeTickPF 
    is a visual comparison of constant range bars, time bars and tickbars( 
    unchanged ticks not used) and point and figure(0.5 X 3).  In order to 
    get the time bars and tick bars to not be stopped out in Friday's decline 
    using the Danton Stop for trend comparison, the time bars had to be 
    increased to 25 minutes per bar and the tick bars had to be increased to 750 
    ticks per bar.  The constant range bars used 5 points per bar.  
    The second chart compares a 750 tick bar with all ticks and 750 tick 
    bar with only changed ticks.  Note how the one on the right without 
    unchanged ticks did not have the whipsaws of the one with all ticks.  
    This works to advantage on moving average crossovers by reducing the 
    whipsaws in congestion periods.enjoy,bobr[This 
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