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Apparently a virus has been disseminated
through this email list. Would someone advise the group how to check if
our individual computers are infected?
G. Rehert
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Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 3:54
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Subject: [RT] Digest Number 1264
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are 9 messages in this issue.Topics in this
digest: 1. Re: Re: So when's the
low?/BOTTOM?
From: Dom Perrino <<A
href="">acutimer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
2. Fibonacci techniques for timing
markets From:
Neal Hughes <<A
href="">traderr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
3. Re: A very funny
website/virus
From: "erdely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <<A
href="">erdely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
4. Security Alert -- massive flood against UPD port
1434 From:
Mark Jurik <<A
href="">mark@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. RE: Security Alert -- massive flood against UPD port 1434
(UPDATE) From:
Mark Jurik <<A
href="">mark@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
6. Re: A very funny
website/virus
From: "tradewynne <<A
href="">tradewynne@xxxxxxxxx>" <<A
href="">tradewynne@xxxxxxxxx>
7. Re: A very funny
website/virus
From: "Bob" <<A
href="">sampah2002@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
8. Re: Re: So when's the
low?/BOTTOM?
From: BobsKC <<A
href="">bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
9. Re: [MedianLine] Constant Range Bars and
PF From:
"BobR" <<A
href="">bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message:
1 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:21:48 -0500 From:
Dom Perrino <<A
href="">acutimer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject:
Re: Re: So when's the low?/BOTTOM?Bob, I did not
comment or respond to your below email. After thinking about it I came to the
conclusion that not to respond would not be appropriate as it would not
address the issue(s) that may have resulted in any misunderstanding(s) from
the exchange(s) between myself and Ben in the emails that culminated in your
below comment. In addition by not doing so I would be committing an act of
omission( looking the other way ). Acts of omissions have in history proven as
dangerous and many times even more dangerous than acts of commission. As a
result this response. Ben and I have been friends and now each
on personal basis for over twenty years.I first met Ben when I was a
stockbroker with a major NYC brokerage firm.He was a client of another broker
in that particular office where he would frequently stop in. We became friends
very quickly as we were both very interested in the stock market and the
commodities markets as well. In short I know Ben in the person. I know his
strong points and his weak points and he knows mine. Friends also at times
have disagreements. Most of our personal disagreements are private. I have a
tendency to be precise and exact. Ben has a tendency not to be as exact. That
could be due to the fact that I was previously in the accounting field. In any
event I made the mistake of not sending private email this time. This may have
caused him to lose his cool, which he rarely does. But the main point, after
giving this very brief background, is that I never considered Ben as a second
language person and still don't. When that first surfaced on your below email
I did not even know what you were talking about. I am a good technical
analysis person but not very good at computers ( that's Ben end, that's not to
say he is not good at technical analysis ), I thought you may have been
referring to Computer Language. The idea of Ben having English as a second
language was never a problem with me. The problem I did have and still do is
his presentation of his material. It's all that simple, this whole
misunderstanding.Regards, Dom Perrino<A
href="">dperrino@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<A
href="">domperrino@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message ----- From: BobsKC To: <A
href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 1:53 PM Subject: Re:
[RT] Re: So when's the low?/BOTTOM? Ben, (as he has said
many, many, times on this list), does not speak english as his first language
and I think that on rare occasion, people may misconstrue his meaning.
Even so, he is very generous to share his thoughts and to some degree, his
methodologies with the list on a regular basis. I am sure he meant no
insult to you. Earnings nailed the dead cat bounce today but it
is still due. Bob At 12:09 PM 1/22/2003 -0500,
you wrote: No need to get defensive. Not everyone
has the system and keeping track of entries and exit points would enhance
understanding of each entry and exit point and would show results in real
time. ----- Original Message
----- From: profitok
To: <A
href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:13
AM Subject: Re: [RT] Re: So when's the
low?/BOTTOM? the profit taking
index, the long term trading and the perfect stop loss are
tools, you need your brain to use the tools to make a
call see work doc in poor English that
tries to explain the tools as for the
system I gave the free version to
hundreds of people and with the
GREAT feed back it is using YOUR suggestions that
contributes to IMPROVING the system (for
the next version) have a great trading
day
Ben ----- Original Message -----
From: Acutimer
To: <A
href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 8:44
AM Subject: Re: [RT] Re: So when's the
low?/BOTTOM? If this system is going
to be in metastock,amibroker and ts is it going to be able to change signals
after reevaluating p/c ratio or other criteria after signal is already given
or is system not yet completed?
----- Original Message ----- From:
profitok To: <A
href="">wheelsinthesky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: <A
href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; <A
href="">ntt-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; <A
href="">panda2222@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:50
PM Subject: [RT] Re: So when's the
low?/BOTTOM? I was a little early
today to close 1/2 of my shorts at
895.3,, I have a gtc to buy the other
1/2 at 884.45,,to close rest of shorts,
there is a better than 80% probability we make a lower low
tomorrow, on the bottom of this
message are the profit taking index that says
:close your shorts(gif
z12103) long term trading says we could
go another 10-15 before a
bottom(gif
long12103) and the perfect stop
loss(gif showing lines lmn) is at the
following levels(gif
lmn12103) 900.65 buy to close
if 884.45 not met
901.75 go long 25%
910.05 go long 75%
911.80 long100% any
questions? all 3 propriety but avail
soon in metastock,amibroker and TS
Ben <A
href="">profitok@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 6:33 PM
Subject: [wheelsinthesky] So when's the
low? > I must have seen at
least a dozen posts predicting a low
between > Friday and Tuesday in the
890s. I don't have a timing cluster
until > this weekend but SPX883 sure
has ALOT going for it. If that breaks
I > wouldn't expect 868 to
hold.
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2 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:59:00 -0800 From:
Neal Hughes <<A
href="">traderr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject:
Fibonacci techniques for timing marketsHi RealTraders,The
following is educational content extracted from my website, contributed
here for your enjoyment... Although this example is an S&P trade
(e-mini), the techniques are transferable to stocks and other instruments.
This technique is best applied when there is ample liquidity, and a good
trend.This is not a "trading system", nor is it perfect. It is one of
several great entry/exit techniques that can give you an edge in a
trending market.There is more to trading than just entry and exit
techniques... My intention is not to outline a complete trading
methodology here.Best wishes as we approach some important Fibonacci
support areas in the markets next week!-Neal
Hughes.---------------------------"Trade of the day Fri Jan
24"We had more great trades in the chat room today. 20 points on NQ
overnight as well as 14.5 points on S&P, and similar on the Dow YM..
Well done Streeter!Today I want to focus on a follow-up on the
training seminar I did on Thursday. The entry rules were explained in the
seminar, and I was actually juggling this trade while preparing the
seminar for distribution.I don't expect anyone to jump into a trade
right after I've done a training session, but the entry was clear, and the
gains substantial.This seminar was for subscribers only, but this
trade-of-the-day will hi-light some of the key principles.The
over-all perspective is that we were in a down-trend on the daily chart
(MACD, RSI,etc), so looking to short the intra-day chart. We resisted at a
Fibonacci level, .618 at about 889 on the ES chart. Shortly there-after
the Stochastic fast line (blue) closed below the slow line (red)
triggering the entry, in the region of 885. My own entry was more like 883
though, since I was juggling some conversations and preparing a
seminar...Intraday 15 minute chart:<<A
href="">http://www.fibmarkets.com/YaBBImages/Attachments/030124_es_tod_15.gif>The
seminar yesterday did not extend to exit rules, so the following is
unrelated to the seminar.One part of trading that traders struggle
with, is letting profits run. In this case, the 10-minute Stochastic kept
us in the trade all the way down to the bottom at 866. See 10-minute chart
for these details.. The exit area is marked on the chart.Intraday 15
minute chart:<<A
href="">http://www.fibmarkets.com/YaBBImages/Attachments/030124_es_tod_10.gif>In
this case the market went on beyond the profit objective. This can happen,
and should be expected. It's not realistic to capture every dollar of
every move, especially with just one technique..Another great day in
the markets! Join us every day, [reference to website and chat room
deleted out of respect for spam-sensitive list
members].-Neal.[This message contained
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3 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:20:18 -0500 From:
"erdely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <<A
href="">erdely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject:
Re: A very funny website/virusOriginal
Message:-----------------From: Bob <A
href="">sampah2002@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxDate:
Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:49:48 -0500To: <A
href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject:
Re: [RT] A very funny website/virus----- Original
Message -----From: <<A
href="">erdely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <<A
href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent:
Friday, January 24, 2003 10:14 PMSubject: Re: [RT] A very funny
website/virus>>> add my name back to the list, the
infected computer has been replaced.>After successfully trading
these markets for over 40 years, the cost of thecomputer is
irrelevant.> <A
href="">erdely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <A
href="">ederdely@xxxxxxx>A good,
regularly update antivirus program is a LOT more cost effectivethan
replacing the computer . You can download a free one at<A
href="">www.grisoft.com. BobTo
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4 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:06:19 -0700 From:
Mark Jurik <<A
href="">mark@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: Security
Alert -- massive flood against UPD port 1434Jan 25, 10am
Sometime late lastnight my ATT cable shot up to 99% utilization and
continues to do so 10 hours later. On checking my firewall, I discovered
numerous computers trying to access UDP port 1434 on my computer. Seems like a
DDS attack gone amuck.If you have cable/DSL and are always online
without a firewall, you may want to get your O/S to temporarily disable UDP
port 1434. - mark
jurik=================================================================================PS
- Here is a sample of my firewall report:JAN 25 11:19:06 2003IP
Packet discarded from 209.202.216.54 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434
(UDP)JAN 25 11:13:56 2003IP Packet discarded from 130.243.8.153 to
12.254.77.80 for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25 11:02:56 2003IP Packet
discarded from 216.148.227.68 to 12.254.77.80 for port 29493 (UDP)JAN
25 10:59:43 2003IP Packet discarded from 208.57.243.220 to 12.254.77.80
for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25 10:49:51 2003IP Packet discarded from
212.113.161.133 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25 10:48:40
2003IP Packet discarded from 209.73.224.142 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434
(UDP)JAN 25 10:46:41 2003IP Packet discarded from 212.19.197.98 to
12.254.77.80 for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25 10:43:39 2003IP Packet
discarded from 65.163.241.18 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25
10:41:36 2003IP Packet discarded from 217.22.192.119 to 12.254.77.80 for
port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25 10:40:44 2003IP Packet discarded from
64.53.181.2 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25 10:40:03
2003IP Packet discarded from 216.140.239.162 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434
(UDP)JAN 25 10:35:03 2003IP Packet discarded from 65.118.28.230 to
12.254.77.80 for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25 10:34:22 2003IP Packet
discarded from 210.238.195.14 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 (UDP)JAN
25 10:31:10 2003IP Packet discarded from 168.156.112.177 to 12.254.77.80
for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25 10:29:15 2003IP Packet discarded from
12.144.155.21 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25 10:29:08
2003IP Packet discarded from 209.202.216.54 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434
(UDP)JAN 25 10:24:36 2003IP Packet discarded from 62.118.252.82 to
12.254.77.80 for port 1434 (UDP)JAN 25 10:23:44 2003IP Packet
discarded from 218.30.21.201 to 12.254.77.80 for port 1434
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5 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:26:58 -0700 From:
Mark Jurik <<A
href="">mark@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: RE:
Security Alert -- massive flood against UPD port 1434
(UPDATE)The UDP port 1434 attack seems to be directed at
servers.For more information on this and a significant security flaw
in Windows XP, go to Gibson Research site at ...<A
href="">http://grc.com/default.htm-
mark
jurik________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message:
6 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 20:06:09 -0000 From:
"tradewynne <<A
href="">tradewynne@xxxxxxxxx>" <<A
href="">tradewynne@xxxxxxxxx>Subject:
Re: A very funny website/virus> After successfully trading
these markets for over 40 years, the cost of the computer is
irrelevant.> > erdely@x...>
> ederdely@x...We are all glad to
hear it, but the AV software may save otherstrouble: do you realize you
sent viruses to the entire list and probably everyone else in your address
book? There is a good chancesome of them who (like you) don't have AV
software will be sendingthis same virus back to you again and
again....unless you buy them newcomputers too ;-)....As Bob
said:You can download a free one at> <A
href="">www.grisoft.com.> >
BobOr you can flush money down to toilet, muck upthe list, and
your friends' and family's computers,for no good
reason....--- In <A
href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "<A
href="">erdely@x..." <<A
href="">erdely@x...> wrote:> > >
Original Message:> -----------------> From: Bob <A
href="">sampah2002@x...> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003
00:49:48 -0500> To: <A
href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RT] A very funny website/virus> > >
> ----- Original Message -----> From: <<A
href="">erdely@x...>> To: <<A
href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:14 PM> Subject: Re: [RT] A very funny
website/virus> >> >> > add my name back to the
list, the infected computer has been replaced.> >>
> After successfully trading these markets for over 40 years, the
cost of the> computer is irrelevant.> > <A
href="">erdely@x...> > <A
href="">ederdely@x...> >> > A
good, regularly update antivirus program is a LOT more cost
effective> than replacing the computer . You can download a free
one at> www.grisoft.com.>
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7 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 14:50:18 -0500 From:
"Bob" <<A
href="">sampah2002@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject:
Re: A very funny website/virusMaybe the cost to you of just
buying a new computer is "irrelevant".However what is the cost to others
on the list of this new, unprotectedcomputer potentially spreading viruses
again? Is that just asirrelevant? Do yourself and others a favor and get
an antivirus programand keep it updated Bob-----
Original Message -----From: <<A
href="">erdely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <<A
href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent:
Saturday, January 25, 2003 1:20 PMSubject: Re: [RT] A very funny
website/virus>>> Original Message:>
-----------------> From: Bob <A
href="">sampah2002@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:49:48 -0500> To: <A
href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RT] A very funny
website/virus>>>> ----- Original Message
-----> From: <<A
href="">erdely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> To:
<<A
href="">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:14 PM> Subject: Re: [RT] A very funny
website/virus> >> >> > add my name back to the
list, the infected computer has beenreplaced.> >>>
After successfully trading these markets for over 40 years, the costof
the> computer is irrelevant.> > <A
href="">erdely@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > <A
href="">ederdely@xxxxxxx>
>>> A good, regularly update antivirus program is a LOT more
costeffective> than replacing the computer . You can download a
free one at> <A
href="">www.grisoft.com.>>
Bob>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
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8 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:10:51 -0500 From:
BobsKC <<A
href="">bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: Re:
Re: So when's the low?/BOTTOM?I did not and do not, doubt your honor
and lack of adversity in your original post.BobAt
10:21 AM 1/25/2003 -0500, you wrote:>Bob,> I
did not comment or respond to your below email. After thinking about
i=>t I came to the conclusion that not to respond would not be
appropriate as =>it would not address the issue(s) that may have
resulted in any misundersta=>nding(s) from the exchange(s) between
myself and Ben in the emails that cul=>minated in your below comment.
In addition by not doing so I would be commi=>tting an act of omission(
looking the other way ). Acts of omissions have i=>n history proven as
dangerous and many times even more dangerous than acts =>of commission.
As a result this response.> Ben and I have been
friends and now each on personal basis for over twen=>ty years.I first
met Ben when I was a stockbroker with a major NYC brokerag=>e firm.He
was a client of another broker in that particular office where
he=>>>WARNING: The remainder of this message has not been
transferred.>The estimated size of this message is 229526
bytes.>Click on the Retrieve From Server icon above and check mail
again to get >the whole thing. (If you're reading this in the preview
pane, you'll need >to open the message to see the icon.) If the
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9 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:26:39 -0800 From:
"BobR" <<A
href="">bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject:
Re: [MedianLine] Constant Range Bars and PFAttached are two NQH3
charts that might be of interest to some. The RangeTimeTickPF is
a visual comparison of constant range bars, time bars and tickbars( unchanged
ticks not used) and point and figure(0.5 X 3). In order to get the time
bars and tick bars to not be stopped out in Friday's decline using the Danton
Stop for trend comparison, the time bars had to be increased to 25 minutes per
bar and the tick bars had to be increased to 750 ticks per bar. The
constant range bars used 5 points per bar. The second chart
compares a 750 tick bar with all ticks and 750 tick bar with only changed
ticks. Note how the one on the right without unchanged ticks did not
have the whipsaws of the one with all ticks. This works to advantage on
moving average crossovers by reducing the whipsaws in congestion
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