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thanks Clyde
will compare results when using this
nave a nice week end
Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clyde Lee" <clydelee@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <gannsghost@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Re: [gannsghost] Re: Jurik Indicators
> Seems to me that people looking for filters seldom look in the
> right place for applications that are far ahead of anything else.
>
> http://www.traders2traders.com/linkindex/Default.asp?CategoryID=21
>
> The filter indicated here is outstanding when you understand what
> it is doing and how to set up the parameters. I do not think that
> there is a more sophisticated way of varying the time period for an
> average (on a continuously variable basis) than is exhibited in this
> filter.
>
> Clyde
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "profitok" <profitok@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <gannsghost@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 4:18 PM
> Subject: [RT] Re: [gannsghost] Re: Jurik Indicators
>
>
> > I only position trade
> > and maybe regression gives the same results on a 5 min bar,, but do you
> get
> > stopped out fast enough on a daily bar?
> > this,, keeps you in the trade when you are right,, and gets you out fast
> > when you are wrong
> > Ben
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "metatrader108" <metatrader108@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <gannsghost@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 1:50 PM
> > Subject: [gannsghost] Re: Jurik Indicators
> >
> >
> > > Do you give high ratings to Jurikstuff based on his own flattery self
> > > promotion or on your own objective study/comarison?
> > >
> > > When I compared it to the Linear Regression indicator which comes
> > > with TS, I didn't find much of a difference. The same least square
> > > formula. Jurik just spiced it with some weighting variable that
> > > doesn't produce much of a difference by the way. This sort of
> > > tweaking is easy to do if you know some easy language. It is also
> > > easy to turn it into oscillator or a system, just substruct 2 lines
> > > of the code.
> > >
> > > The only innovation I see is in repackaging plain math and reselling
> > > it under the rocket science label something that already built into
> > > TS. You just have to know how to access it.
> > >
> > > After I tested diff mechanical systems against each other, dual
> > > (separate sets for buy and sell) MACD showed superior results.
> > > It beated Jurik's stuff as well. Also you have to continusly optimise
> > > to keep this stuff working and another important thing you have to
> > > determine the optimum data length for optimization. It shouldn't be
> > > too long or short.
> > > That what realistically takes to trade mechanically - non mechanical
> > > realisation. It turns to be just another technical tool.
> > >
> > > Greg.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In gannsghost@xxxx, "wdgann2002" <wdgann2002@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > Hi Steve,
> > > >
> > > > I believe you can buy the indicators individually but you get a
> > > > discount if you buy several at once. I have the excel dll's... I
> > > use
> > > > excel for everything... call me odd but I like it and with VBA can
> > > do
> > > > just about anything.
> > > >
> > > > Don't follow the beans. I use the indicators as
> > > inputs/preprocessing
> > > > for in my proprietary signals so I don't have any pictures to show
> > > > you per se. But, with out a doubt for the same period JMA will give
> > > > you a MUCH smoother signal with much less lag than just about
> > > > everything but especially a simple or exponential average. VEL same
> > > > thing.. it is nice. (oh BTW People are always sayiung "it is not
> > > > rocket science" but in this case, it IS rocket science ....
> > > applied
> > > > to the markets of course.)
> > > >
> > > > I suggest you go here:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.mesasoftware.com/pub/index.html and get this:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.mesasoftware.com/pub/TRACKINGFILTERS.EXE
> > > >
> > > > (A word file in self extracting zip format)
> > > >
> > > > and read about the Kalman filter. It will give you a pretty good
> > > Idea
> > > > what kind of formuala you are buying in JMA. If you don't want to
> > > > mess with programming your own indicator them by all means get JMA
> > > > and VEL... the price is right and you won't be disappointed. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Rick-
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In gannsghost@xxxx, steve3656@xxxx wrote:
> > > > > Rick
> > > > > Thanks for your timely response, it was very nice of you to take
> > > > the time to
> > > > > explain it all in detail. I have been to the jurik site, read the
> > > > manual and
> > > > > was overly impressed with the various indicators, the JMA looks
> > > > vastly
> > > > > superior and appears to be a step ahead of the mkt while
> > > > traditional MA tends
> > > > > to lag a bit.
> > > > > I will certainly check out the links you mentioned. I am not
> > > trying
> > > > to create
> > > > > a system, so jurik would be fine for my purposes, I just need an
> > > > additional
> > > > > tool to confirm reversal points, that's why I got interested in
> > > > jurik. So are
> > > > > you saying that I don't necessarily need to purchase all of the
> > > > indicators,
> > > > > but that the JMA and VEL would be adequate? Are you using TS4 or
> > > > Prosuite
> > > > > 2000 with your indicators?
> > > > > I would appreciate if you could send me a chart on beans and
> > > cocoa
> > > > or cattle
> > > > > just to give me an idea of how they work.
> > > > > thanks again for your help
> > > > > Steve
> > >
> > >
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