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I really doubt that the sp will take out Fri.
high,,
and if it does it will give me a gift to short
more,,
for the next 4-5 days I expect to have NASDAQ and sp have
more risk than reward on the upside
Ben
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Subject: [RT] Re: [gannsghost] Re: Jurik
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Ben,Do you know the probability of the gap being filled
from 8-5 at 834.50 to the open of 8-6 at 847.00? We continue to slightly climb
on lighter volume. I'm thinking that no matter what greenspan does on tuesday
the sp will pull back and fill that gap first, but who knows
right?Matt------- Forwarded Message Follows
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]thanks Clydewill compare results when using
thisnave a nice week endBen----- Original Message -----From:
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<gannsghost@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 5:25
PMSubject: Re: [RT] Re: [gannsghost] Re: Jurik Indicators> Seems to me that
people looking for filters seldom look in the> right place for
applications that are far ahead of anything else.>>
http://www.traders2traders.com/linkindex/Default.asp?CategoryID=21>>
The filter indicated here is outstanding when you understand what> it
is doing and how to set up the parameters. I do not think that> there
is a more sophisticated way of varying the time period for an> average
(on a continuously variable basis) than is exhibited in this>
filter.>> Clyde>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - -> Clyde Lee Chairman/CEO (Home of
SwingMachine)> SYTECH Corporation email: clydelee@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
7910 Westglen, Suite 105 Office: (713) 783-9540> Houston, TX 77063 Fax:
(713) 783-1092> Details at: www.theswingmachine.com> - - - - - -
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Message -----> From: "profitok" <profitok@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
To: <gannsghost@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Cc:
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 4:18
PM> Subject: [RT] Re: [gannsghost] Re: Jurik
Indicators>>> > I only position trade> > and
maybe regression gives the same results on a 5 min bar,, but do you>
get> > stopped out fast enough on a daily bar?> > this,,
keeps you in the trade when you are right,, and gets you out fast> >
when you are wrong> > Ben> > ----- Original Message
-----> > From: "metatrader108"
<metatrader108@xxxxxxxxx>> > To:
<gannsghost@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002
1:50 PM> > Subject: [gannsghost] Re: Jurik Indicators>
>> >> > > Do you give high ratings to Jurikstuff
based on his own flattery self> > > promotion or on your own
objective study/comarison?> > >> > > When I compared
it to the Linear Regression indicator which comes> > > with TS, I
didn't find much of a difference. The same least square> > >
formula. Jurik just spiced it with some weighting variable that> >
> doesn't produce much of a difference by the way. This sort of>
> > tweaking is easy to do if you know some easy language. It is
also> > > easy to turn it into oscillator or a system, just
substruct 2 lines> > > of the code.> > >>
> > The only innovation I see is in repackaging plain math and
reselling> > > it under the rocket science label something that
already built into> > > TS. You just have to know how to access
it.> > >> > > After I tested diff mechanical systems
against each other, dual> > > (separate sets for buy and sell)
MACD showed superior results.> > > It beated Jurik's stuff as
well. Also you have to continusly optimise> > > to keep this
stuff working and another important thing you have to> > >
determine the optimum data length for optimization. It shouldn't be>
> > too long or short.> > > That what realistically takes
to trade mechanically - non mechanical> > > realisation. It turns
to be just another technical tool.> > >> > >
Greg.> > >> > >> > > --- In
gannsghost@xxxx, "wdgann2002" <wdgann2002@xxxx> wrote:> > >
> Hi Steve,> > > >> > > > I believe you can
buy the indicators individually but you get a> > > > discount
if you buy several at once. I have the excel dll's... I> > >
use> > > > excel for everything... call me odd but I like it
and with VBA can> > > do> > > > just about
anything.> > > >> > > > Don't follow the
beans. I use the indicators as> > > inputs/preprocessing>
> > > for in my proprietary signals so I don't have any pictures to
show> > > > you per se. But, with out a doubt for the same
period JMA will give> > > > you a MUCH smoother signal with
much less lag than just about> > > > everything but especially
a simple or exponential average. VEL same> > > > thing.. it is
nice. (oh BTW People are always sayiung "it is not> > > >
rocket science" but in this case, it IS rocket science ....> > >
applied> > > > to the markets of course.)> > >
>> > > > I suggest you go here:> > >
>> > > > http://www.mesasoftware.com/pub/index.html and get
this:> > > >> > > >
http://www.mesasoftware.com/pub/TRACKINGFILTERS.EXE> > >
>> > > > (A word file in self extracting zip
format)> > > >> > > > and read about the
Kalman filter. It will give you a pretty good> > > Idea>
> > > what kind of formuala you are buying in JMA. If you don't want
to> > > > mess with programming your own indicator them by all
means get JMA> > > > and VEL... the price is right and you
won't be disappointed. ;-)> > > >> > > >
Rick-> > > >> > > >> > > > ---
In gannsghost@xxxx, steve3656@xxxx wrote:> > > > >
Rick> > > > > Thanks for your timely response, it was very
nice of you to take> > > > the time to> > > >
> explain it all in detail. I have been to the jurik site, read the>
> > > manual and> > > > > was overly impressed
with the various indicators, the JMA looks> > > >
vastly> > > > > superior and appears to be a step ahead of
the mkt while> > > > traditional MA tends> > >
> > to lag a bit.> > > > > I will certainly check out
the links you mentioned. I am not> > > trying> > >
> to create> > > > > a system, so jurik would be fine
for my purposes, I just need an> > > > additional> >
> > > tool to confirm reversal points, that's why I got interested
in> > > > jurik. So are> > > > > you saying
that I don't necessarily need to purchase all of the> > > >
indicators,> > > > > but that the JMA and VEL would be
adequate? Are you using TS4 or> > > > Prosuite> >
> > > 2000 with your indicators?> > > > > I would
appreciate if you could send me a chart on beans and> > >
cocoa> > > > or cattle> > > > > just to
give me an idea of how they work.> > > > > thanks again for
your help> > > > > Steve> > >> >
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