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RE: [RT] Hurst Long Term Cycles



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Its 
the opinion of a long term trader...a person with real market experience..and I 
agree with 
you 
entirely Ira. Markets are chaotic..and that must be taken into consideration as 
much
as 
possible.
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  face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Ira Tunik 
  [mailto:irat@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2002 12:56 
  AMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [RT] Hurst 
  Long Term CyclesFirst let me say that I believe in cycles 
  and in Hurst's work.  I use it in my work.  The thing that bothers 
  me about what you are doing is that you are trying to take years and years of 
  data and come up with a norm.  I haven't read Hurst in years, but I do 
  remember that he stated, and I agree, that cycles are variable. His 28 week 
  cycle was plus or minus.  So after the first cycle, the second cycle can 
  be longer or shorter then first by a bar or two.  If that is the case 
  then over a period of time, if you don't change the starting point of the 
  cycle, you will be all out of whack.  Using very sophisticated 
  mathematics will not change that fact or give you a highly dependable 
  result.  At least it hasn't for me, but then again, I am not a math 
  whiz.  I have found, as an example, that a 10 bar cycle can have 8 bars 
  for two or three cycles and go to 10 and then 12 bars and come back down to 9 
  etc.  If you start at the beginning of the first 8 bar measurement with , 
  by the time you get to the end everything is out of sync.  This is the 
  opinion of one low math achiever.  Ira. 
  Clyde Lee wrote: 
  
    
    In Hurst's epic discussion of market timing 
    he made a study of thecyclic 
    elements in the market (DJIA I think). To 
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