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Bill,
Not trying to change anythinge you do, just looking for "additive methods"
that may all make us money? I can tell you do believe in it and that's fine,
as the say different strokes for differnet folks.
To answer your question, I started with it in 1994 evaluating the software
for a "large commodities brokerage firm" locally, it was called something
differnent then (EWOL?) and available on CQG.
They did not understand it (neither did I) and the broker asked if I would
offer an opinion on it (he knew was fairly software efficient). I did not
know futures at all (only stocks and options then) and did not know a
soybean was if I stepped on one (still the case). Anyway the broker was big
into beans and I ran the AGET and it warned of a failed 5th wave or a double
top in beans (they were around 7.00+ as I recall). I called a friend that I
knew who traded commodities and asked him about beans. He was long and his
comment was "beans in the teen's". I told him he should come down and look
at what I was seeing. He never did and bought them all the way down to the
mid $5, and went bust (later divorced over this). So I am thinking, I don't
know crap about this but this software made a good call, then maybe, just
lucky. Later on it made another good call in gold and silver, so I bought
the software in mid-1995 and been working with it ever since. Was it that
easy after that, nope, never is but it is the main positioning tool I still
trade under and almost every week I still learn something new regarding this
and other techniques. I don't know about others but that is "cool" about
what we do, it is constantly "additive" hopefully.
That is my story how about you?
don ewers
----- Original Message -----
From: "tradewynne" <tradewynne@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Prognosticators Anomymous
> > What is your "guiding light", I don't recall I have ever seen you
> post that as I recall"?
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/realtraders/message/17341
>
> I guess you haven't read my posts. Mechanical breadth based
> systems. I started plotting the hourly A/D line by hand
> circa 1986-1987.... I also use(d) Elliott Wave.
>
> > but the pattern is still there....
>
> That's just it: I see your numbers, I don't see an Elliott
> "5" wave pattern at all. Anyway, the question still remains:
> if it's a failed fifth and the "top" was in September, it
> changes everything. What do you do with your count? What does
> AGET do with the count?
>
> >that is hard, as was for me early on.
>
> How long you been an EWer Don?
>
> BW
>
> PS: Thanks Clyde, I'll check the site out.
>
>
> --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Don Ewers" <dbewers@xxxx> wrote:
> > Bill,
> > As my wife frequently likes to remind me "It is not about being
> right, it is
> > about making money".
> >
> > EW wave has helped me do that. All I see is 5's and 3's and the
> pattern
> > helps me. Pick it apart all you want, but the pattern is still
> there, deny
> > it if you chose. The warning signs the software provides (larger
> time
> > frames), when a change is about to occur, are normally there, one
> needs to
> > understand and accept, that patterns can expand thats all, for some
> that is
> > hard, as was for me early on.
> >
> > What is your "guiding light", I don't recall I have ever seen you
> post that
> > as I recall"?
> > don ewers
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "tradewynne" <tradewynne@xxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 9:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [RT] Prognosticators Anomymous
> >
> >
> > > Don,
> > >
> > > Yup, that's the one. I guess I'm learning just about anything
> > > can be counted any way AGET wants to count it. As this count
> > > stands waves 2,3,4,& 5 on your previous post are all 1000% +
> > > as long (time wise) as your wave 1. I'm sure AGET is useful,
> > > but is this really Elliott Wave?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > BW
> > >
> > > --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Don Ewers" <dbewers@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > Bill,
> > > > OK, got ya, you actually had two posts asking a similar
> question,
> > > one under
> > > > tradewynne with this subject and the other had a subject "Aget
> EW
> > > counts"
> > > > under B W.
> > > >
> > > > Both appear to be the same basically?
> > > >
> > > > Here is my gif from the 3-24-00 high to the wave 1 on
> > > > 4-4-00 low. Again dropping to a 60min and labeling the count,
> > > this is what
> > > > I see. The minor wave 5 of wave 1, exceeded the normal .618 to
> > > 1.00 target
> > > > range which only happens 18% of the time (82% fall in the
> range).
> > > Maybe
> > > > appropriate after a major market top? Does this answer your
> > > question on
> > > > both posts. Yes it could be seen as an ABC or what I
> illustrated.
> > > This is
> > > > similar to Nick Ali observation and in fact Tom Joseph's.
> > > > don ewers
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "tradewynne" <tradewynne@xxxx>
> > > > To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 3:52 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [RT] Prognosticators Anomymous
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > We are talking different years. I'm talking about
> > > > > your Y2K "1" post. You can see the dates on my posts
> > > > > if you look at the bottom of the charts.
> > > > >
> > > > > BW
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Don Ewers" <dbewers@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > Bill,
> > > > > > Sorry I am late in getting back to you about your wave 1
> > > question,
> > > > > I am just
> > > > > > getting around to reading this list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Attached is a 60min chart that shows the "internal wave
> count"
> > > of
> > > > > minor
> > > > > > wave 1 that I showed on the SPC daily chart I had posted
> just
> > > prior
> > > > > on 7-10.
> > > > > > I dropped to a 60min chart to show it. Am I correct that
> your
> > > > > question was
> > > > > > about that minor wave 1 or you are asking something
> different
> > > (this
> > > > > is from
> > > > > > the high on 3-19-02). The gif you included of mine is
> different
> > > > > and would
> > > > > > be from 01-07-02 so I threw that one in too. Not as pretty
> and
> > > sub-
> > > > > minor
> > > > > > 4:5 was a very strong retrace and would have shown a very
> low
> > > PTI
> > > > > in an even
> > > > > > shorter time frame, an indication that a possible double
> bottom
> > > for
> > > > > wave 5:5
> > > > > > when compared to 3:5, which turned out to be the case as it
> > > turned
> > > > > out. Let
> > > > > > me know if these are not what you were asking about.
> > > > > > don ewers
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "B W" <tradewynne@xxxx>
> > > > > > To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:18 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [RT] Prognosticators Anomymous
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Don,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How do you count the internals of wave "1" ? Looks like
> > > > > > > an "ABC" to me. Your chart and an expanded daily attached.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BTW, John, even though the SPX is at the bottom of a
> potential
> > > > > > > wedge, I'll just wait for a buy signal. All A/D systems I
> have
> > > > > > > are still short.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BW
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Don Ewers" <dbewers@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > > John,
> > > > > > > > Here is what I am "watching":
> > > > > > > > The charts show a "smaller view", then a "blowup view"
> of a
> > > > > possible
> > > > > > retrace
> > > > > > > > to an old median line if we go below prices today (pit
> > > only).
> > > > > If so we
> > > > > > may
> > > > > > > > be headed to the blowup view around 888 + or -? Below
> > > > > that . . .?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Smaller view sees some confluence between a "median line
> > > set"
> > > > > and a
> > > > > > > > "parallel line set" and just below a internal
> wave "count"
> > > > > extension
> > > > > > (the
> > > > > > > > MOB off the 9-21 is shown below). The larger view shows
> > > again
> > > > > a MOB
> > > > > > level
> > > > > > > > off the 9-21 low and more importantly a much older upper
> > > median
> > > > > line set
> > > > > > off
> > > > > > > > the high. The question becomes is this a test of the
> down
> > > > > trendline
> > > > > > (upper
> > > > > > > > median line dark blue set) if todays lows cave "pit
> time"
> > > and
> > > > > then a
> > > > > > reflex
> > > > > > > > rally or . . .well you know?
> > > > > > > > don ewers
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "John Cappello" <jvc689@xxxx>
> > > > > > > > To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> > > > > > > > Cc: <MedianLine@xxxx>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 6:16 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [RT] Prognosticators Anomymous
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > After observing the down trend over the last 3 and 1/2
> > > > > months, I
> > > > > > > > > noted that the day after each new yearly S&P low there
> > > > > occurred a
> > > > > > > > > spike the next day that recaptured [at least for a
> time] a
> > > > > major part
> > > > > > > > > of the drop. Based upon this limited "study" I am
> looking
> > > for
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > same bounce tomorrow.I already made my long
> committment.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I would be interested in the forecast by Sailors,
> fibers,
> > > > > pivoters ,
> > > > > > > > > S&R er's, pitchforkers, Hurst-Fouriers and whoever
> else
> > > would
> > > > > like to
> > > > > > > > > have fun and participate in this guesstimate of what
> will
> > > > > happen
> > > > > > > > > tomorrow.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hope some of you can find the time to participate.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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