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Earl Adamy
To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:46
AM
Subject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track
record
I think you make two valid points: know how to do the counts yourself and
beable to control/apply your own counts when you don't like the
automatedcounts. I highly recommend the simplified EW approach used by
Robert Minerin his Dynamic Trader book ($100 with full money back
guarantee at<A
href="http://www.dynamictraders.com";>www.dynamictraders.com) ... I don't
use the DT3 software. I'm not familiarwith EW3 (I did have WinWaves and
didn't care for it), however AGet which Iuse, allows one to control counts
to a limited degree (short term,aggressive, regular, long term, plus
localize) ... as a last resort I justturn the EW counts off and apply my
own labels.
I'm also a "Miner," surviving
without any automation. In my case, however, EW is just background with
Fibonacci and Gann in the foreground.
Earl----- Original Message -----From:
"wavemechanic" <<A
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Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:28 AMSubject: Re: [RT] Re: forecasting-track
record ----- Original Message ----- From:
Karen Beckwith To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [RT] Re:
forecasting-track record Jeff: Looking for a holy
grail? Have u ever looked into the EW3 (Elliott Wave)
software? I can't find anyone who uses it, but it sounds awfully
good. Anyone here familiar w/ EW3? I have not used
EWII but did use the previous version WinWaves, and EWIIis supposed to
have a better analysis engine. However, a couple ofthoughts.
What is the correct count? There are many counts and in the
lastanalysis the only one that is right is yours. So being able to
do your owncount is important, and the software is a tool to increase your
efficiencyand, perhaps, help you over the rough spots. Having said
that, oneimportant feature that I would be sure to have is the ability to
input mycount and see how it plays. Most EW programs do not have
this option, butif I recall correctly ELWave does.
FWIW. best wishes, karen ps - May the force
be with you. :>) :>) ----- Original
Message ----- From: "jeff97_98_1998" <<A
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Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:50 AM Subject: [RT] Re:
forecasting-track record > > "If one tries
to fight these forces they will be destroyed. If one > can unite
and redirect these forces to > ones advantage, one should be able
to progress quite swiftly." > > >
Sounds like a re-run of Kung Fu. > Grasshopper, my son, be of
unity with the universe. > Now catch this fly in my
soup. > > Please enlighten me, how does one unite
and redirect these forces to > ones advantage?
> > How do I redirect a drought in the midwest, terrorist
attack crashing > the S & P , lumber import regulations vs.
canadian exports? > > Fundamentals, schmundamentals,
blah, blah. > > I have the force, the unity, the
polarity... > > Beam me up Scotty, for I have
discovered how markets > work, yet I waste my time trolling
for fish. > Why is that? > >
> > > > >
> --- In realtraders@x..., "Norman
Winski" <nwinski@x...> wrote:
> > Reinar, > > > > From one
sailor to another, when one's sailboat hits a sand bar, >
that's > > called running a ground and that's not a good
thing. > > > > I know it's time for me
to take a vacation. Your sailing metaphor > is >
> starting to make sense to me.<G> Seriously, I agree that
sailing > is a good > > analogy for trading, but
not for the reasons you have stated. I > think >
> sailing is a good analogy for trading because in order to be
> successful, one > > must join with the huge natural
forces at work. If one tries to > fight these
> > forces they will be destroyed. If one can unite and redirect
these > forces to > > ones advantage, one should
be able to progress quite swiftly. > > >
> Gann fans - the ideal position to attain maximum speed is to
have > the sail > > at a 45 degree angle to the
wind. > > > > Nautically, >
> > > Norman > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message
----- > > From: "reinar2020" <<A
href="mailto:reinar2020@x";>reinar2020@x...> > > To:
<realtraders@x...> >
> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:33 AM > > Subject: Re:
[RT] forecasting-track record > > >
> > > > Elk > > > > >
> Not only will I continue to use sailing as a metaphor but I
will > > > expand the use. There are several reasons.
Selling to "the > traders" > > > market is too
limiting and more imortant.... If you can think > like
a > > > sailor you can think like a profitable
trader...... > > > > > > >
> > If you have ever been sailing you would know that it is kind of
a > > > zen like experience where you have a very specific
focus. All the > BS > > > that is provided by
the media etc is gone. > > > > > > There
are other advantages. Any monkey can draw an Andrews line >
and > > > if you read his totally incomplete "free" 60 page
lit.... at any > > > time there are at least 20 or so that
come in tomorrow. So which > > > ones do you use? Rather
than take the standard approach of here > are > >
> the lines .....let get overwhelmed with stuff that is
useless..... > > > > > > I will focus
upon about 3 kinds of sand bars and a marker. > > > I did
something similar in Vienna seminars and the sucess rate of >
> > the students over a long time period was very high. >
> > > > > Focus upon the chicken ( the end result..
you really want ) not on > > > the eggs. >
> > > > > We look for 4 things... > >
> > > > 1) sand bars (support and resistance lines)
where prices stop for > a > > > bar or 2 and
then go through > > > > > > 2) sand bars
where prices go through and then go back to it to >
touch > > > it before continuing in the proper
direction > > > > > > (the above are
very handy for adding on positions or getting in > with
> > > definable risk....the other side of the sand bar
line) > > > > > > 3) and finally sand
bars that are likely to produce a tradeable > > > pivot
....like i pointed out on thursday in an email I sent out. > >
> > > > 4) and then how to find markers (probable future
pivot points) > > > > > > Now instead of
learning how to draw all of those silly lines you > > >
learned how to draw lines that produced the above .......wouldn't
> > > Andrews really work .....and very easily at that?
> > > > > > Oh by the way did you ever learn what
the Andrews "ROS" line was? > > > Hint....its a sand
bar. > > > > > > > >
> Regards > > > R > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In <A
href="mailto:realtraders@x";>realtraders@x..., Infernal Elk <<A
href="mailto:infernalelk@x";>infernalelk@x...> wrote: >
> > > > > > > >> John either you
are blind or you faded the forecast. > > > >
>> ...or does north mean go short to you? > > >
> > > > > >> R > > >
> > > > > maybe if you spoke in market terms rather
than cryptic pseudo- > > > poetic > > >
> "nautical" terms, people would understand you. > > >
> > > > > if your desire is to communicate, then do
so CLEARLY. if your > > > desire > >
> > is to tease and to draw people in to buy your product you'll
do > > > better > > > > to speak
clearly as well. > > > > > > > >
we're not sailors. we're traders. > > >
> > > > > - *lk > > >
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