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I thought that advice was extremely helpful. He
potentially saved this woman (not the Mary woman, the Karen woman) many wasted
years of learning to count waves only to find out they don't work. Not to
mention the thousands of $'s spent on software.
And you know, that analogy about rusty water stains on the
wall was a good one. But I guess you were seeing too much red by that time
to see the message. Of course, computers can be programmed to see things
that aren't there, too. EW3 is probably a good example.
Fortunately, no one has programmed a computer to be offended
when someone makes a harmless religious reference. Next thing you know,
they'll be programming them to get offended when someone doesn't make the
correct religious reference. Face-It.
Kent
----- Original Message -----
From: <A
href="mailto:Duke.Jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=Duke.Jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Duke Jones - Portfolio Manager
To: <A href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:07 AM
Subject: RE: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record
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<FONT color=navy face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">I am a
lurker on the board and I have resisted the temptation to fire back a response
after a couple of your emails but this last one with the reference to “that Mary
woman” was enough.
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<FONT color=navy face=Arial
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">First,
lets leave personal issues aside from the list as some of us find this extremely
offensive. Secondly, most on the board attempt to offer something constructive.
I am not saying all are good and do not warrant criticism or challenge but in
your case you do nothing to further the discussion other than launch a few over
used statistical phrases and satirical remarks.
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<FONT color=navy face=Arial
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Lets
face it…to have a truly in statistically significant system the number of
observations required would be a couple of lifetimes. I personally don’t care to
wait that long so I play the best odds my systems will give.
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<FONT color=navy face=Arial
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Last, if
I wanted to read or listen to another talking head I would just flip on CNBC.
Either offer something constructive or leave us
alone.
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Message-----From:
jeff97_98_1998 [mailto:jprroth@xxxxxxxxxxx]<SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:35
AMTo:
realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: [RT] Re: forecasting-track
record
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style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Karen,<FONT
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style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Courier New'">I
don't believe in Elliott Wave,BUT I do use a lotta Gerri
Curl.Put 20 Elliott Believers in a room,give them
the same chart, and you will get20 different wave counts.
Kinda like a Rorschach Ink Blot Test.Can also
throw in a rusty water stain on a chruch wall,resembling that
"Mary" woman.The mind is a terrible thing to
trust.regards,jeff--- In
realtraders@xxxx, "Karen Beckwith" <hoticetea@xxxx>
wrote:> Jeff:> Looking for a holy grail?
Have u ever looked into the EW3 (Elliott Wave)>
software? I can't find anyone who uses it, but it sounds awfully
good.> Anyone here familiar w/
EW3?> best wishes,> karen> ps -
May the force be with you.> :>)>
:>)> > ----- Original Message
-----> From: "jeff97_98_1998"
<jprroth@xxxx>> To:
<realtraders@xxxx>> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:50
AM> Subject: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record>
> > >> > "If one tries to
fight these forces they will be destroyed. If one> > can
unite and redirect these forces to> > ones advantage, one
should be able to progress quite swiftly.">
>> >> > Sounds like a re-run of Kung
Fu.> > Grasshopper, my son, be of unity with the
universe.> > Now catch this fly in my soup.>
>> > Please enlighten me, how does one unite and redirect
these forces to> > ones
advantage?> >> > How do I redirect a
drought in the midwest, terrorist attack crashing>
> the S & P , lumber import regulations vs. canadian
exports?> >> > Fundamentals,
schmundamentals, blah, blah.> >> > I have
the force, the unity, the polarity...> >>
> Beam me up Scotty, for I have discovered how markets>
> work, yet I waste my time trolling for fish.> >
Why is that?> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> > --- In realtraders@xxxx,
"Norman Winski" <nwinski@xxxx> wrote:> > >
Reinar,> > >> > > From
one sailor to another, when one's sailboat hits a sand
bar,> > that's> > > called
running a ground and that's not a good thing.> >
>> > > I know it's time for me to take a
vacation. Your sailing metaphor> >
is> > > starting to make sense to me.<G>
Seriously, I agree that sailing> > is a
good> > > analogy for trading, but not for the reasons you
have stated. I> > think> > > sailing is
a good analogy for trading because in order to be> >
successful, one> > > must join with the huge natural
forces at work. If one tries to> > fight
these> > > forces they will be destroyed. If one can unite
and redirect these> > forces to>
> > ones advantage, one should be able to progress quite
swiftly.> > >> > > Gann fans -
the ideal position to attain maximum speed is to
have> > the sail> > > at a
45 degree angle to the wind.> > >> >
> Nautically,> > >> > >
Norman> > >> > >>
> >> > > ----- Original Message
-----> > > From: "reinar2020"
<reinar2020@xxxx>> > > To:
<realtraders@xxxx>> > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002
12:33 AM> > > Subject: Re: [RT] forecasting-track
record> > >> > >>
> > > Elk> > > >> > >
> Not only will I continue to use sailing as a metaphor but I
will> > > > expand the use. There are
several reasons. Selling to "the> > traders">
> > > market is too limiting and more imortant.... If you can
think> > like a> > > > sailor you
can think like a profitable trader......> > >
>> > > >> > > > If you have
ever been sailing you would know that it is kind of
a> > > > zen like experience where you have a very
specific focus. All the> > BS>
> > > that is provided by the media etc is gone.> >
> >> > > > There are other advantages. Any monkey
can draw an Andrews line> > and>
> > > if you read his totally incomplete "free" 60 page lit.... at
any> > > > time there are at least 20 or
so that come in tomorrow. So which> > > >
ones do you use? Rather than take the standard approach of
here> > are> > > > the
lines .....let get overwhelmed with stuff that is
useless.....> > > >> >
> > I will focus upon about 3 kinds of sand bars and a
marker.> > > > I did something similar in Vienna
seminars and the sucess rate of> > > > the
students over a long time period was very high.> > >
>> > > > Focus upon the chicken ( the end result..
you really want ) not on> > > > the
eggs.> > > >> > > > We look
for 4 things...> > > >> > > >
1) sand bars (support and resistance lines) where prices stop
for> > a> > > > bar or
2 and then go through> > > >> > >
> 2) sand bars where prices go through and then go back to it
to> > touch> > > > it before
continuing in the proper direction> > >
>> > > > (the above are very handy for adding on
positions or getting in> > with>
> > > definable risk....the other side of the sand bar
line)> > > >> > > > 3) and
finally sand bars that are likely to produce a
tradeable> > > > pivot ....like i pointed
out on thursday in an email I sent out.> > >
>> > > > 4) and then how to find markers (probable
future pivot points)> > > >> > >
> Now instead of learning how to draw all of those silly lines
you> > > > learned how to draw lines that
produced the above .......wouldn't> > > >
Andrews really work .....and very easily at that?> > >
>> > > > Oh by the way did you ever learn what the
Andrews "ROS" line was?> > > > Hint....its
a sand bar.> > > >> > >
>> > > > Regards> > > >
R> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > --- In
realtraders@xxxx, Infernal Elk <infernalelk@xxxx>
wrote:> > > > >> >
> > > >> John either you are blind or you faded the
forecast.> > > > > >> ...or does north
mean go short to you?> > > > >> >
> > > >> R> > > >
>> > > > > maybe if you spoke in market terms
rather than cryptic pseudo-> > > >
poetic> > > > > "nautical" terms, people would
understand you.> > > > >> > >
> > if your desire is to communicate, then do so CLEARLY. if
your> > > > desire> >
> > > is to tease and to draw people in to buy your product
you'll do> > > > better>
> > > > to speak clearly as well.> > > >
>> > > > > we're not sailors. we're
traders.> > > > >> > > >
> - *lk> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > To
unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:> > > >
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