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<span
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freedom of expression should be protected… I am not limiting yours… I just wish
you had something useful to say. This
is not a political forum or religious forum its real traders. There are plenty
of places where you can banter to your hearts content I was hoping you would
stick to the topic of the list that was all. <span style="mso-spacerun:
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<span
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correct in that filtering is probably my best choice here.
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<span
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<font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma>-----Original
Message-----
From: jeff97_98_1998
[mailto:jprroth@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002
10:50 AM
To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [RT] Re:
forecasting-track record
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color:black'>Duke,<span
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color:black'>
So news reports on national television, interviewing
people "seeing" the Virgin Mary in a rust stain,
that is OK. But if I make reference to it, that is
not OK, blaspheme ? A little touch of hipocracy.
Censorship, the Americam way. Do you understand
sarcasm? Put me on auto ignore.
Non constructive for you, may be constructive
for anothers. do you speak for all, or is this
just your opinion? request that the moderator ban
me. But don't ban the indicator salesmen, the
rediculous prognosticators and their pay sites.
freedom of expression comes in many forms.
restriction of expression, wasn't that tried
in a few third world countries, with less than
stellar results?
take care......
--- In realtraders@xxxx, "Duke Jones - Portfolio Manager"
<Duke.Jones@xxxx> wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> I am a lurker on the board and I have resisted the temptation to
fire back a
> response after a couple of your emails but this last one with the
reference
> to "that Mary woman" was enough.
>
> First, lets leave personal issues aside from the list as some of us
find
> this extremely offensive. Secondly, most on the board attempt to
offer
> something constructive. I am not saying all are good and do not
warrant
> criticism or challenge but in your case you do nothing to further
the
> discussion other than launch a few over used statistical phrases and
> satirical remarks.
>
> Lets face it.to have a truly in statistically significant system
the number
> of observations required would be a couple of lifetimes. I
personally don't
> care to wait that long so I play the best odds my systems will give.
>
> Last, if I wanted to read or listen to another talking head I would
just
> flip on CNBC. Either offer something constructive or leave us alone.
>
> Duke
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jeff97_98_1998 [mailto:jprroth@xxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:35 AM
> To: realtraders@xxxx
> Subject: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record
>
> Karen,
> I don't believe in Elliott Wave,
> BUT I do use a lotta Gerri Curl.
>
> Put 20 Elliott Believers in a room,
> give them the same chart, and you will get
> 20 different wave counts.
>
> Kinda like a Rorschach Ink Blot Test.
> Can also throw in a rusty water stain on a chruch wall,
> resembling that "Mary" woman.
> The mind is a terrible thing to trust.
>
> regards,
>
> jeff
>
>
> --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Karen Beckwith"
<hoticetea@xxxx> wrote:
> > Jeff:
> > Looking for a holy grail? Have u ever looked into the EW3
(Elliott
> Wave)
> > software? I can't find anyone who uses it, but it sounds
awfully
> good.
> > Anyone here familiar w/ EW3?
> > best wishes,
> > karen
> > ps - May the force be with you.
> > :>)
> > :>)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jeff97_98_1998" <jprroth@xxxx>
> > To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:50 AM
> > Subject: [RT] Re: forecasting-track record
> >
> >
> > >
> > > "If one tries to fight these forces they will be
destroyed. If
one
> > > can unite and redirect these forces to
> > > ones advantage, one should be able to progress quite
swiftly."
> > >
> > >
> > > Sounds like a re-run of Kung Fu.
> > > Grasshopper, my son, be of unity with the universe.
> > > Now catch this fly in my soup.
> > >
> > > Please enlighten me, how does one unite and redirect these
forces
> to
> > > ones advantage?
> > >
> > > How do I redirect a drought in the midwest, terrorist attack
> crashing
> > > the S & P , lumber import regulations vs. canadian
exports?
> > >
> > > Fundamentals, schmundamentals, blah, blah.
> > >
> > > I have the force, the unity, the polarity...
> > >
> > > Beam me up Scotty, for I have discovered how markets
> > > work, yet I waste my time trolling for fish.
> > > Why is that?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In realtraders@xxxx, "Norman Winski"
<nwinski@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > Reinar,
> > > >
> > > > From one sailor to another, when one's
sailboat hits a sand
> bar,
> > > that's
> > > > called running a ground and that's not a good thing.
> > > >
> > > > I know it's time for me to take a vacation. Your
sailing
> metaphor
> > > is
> > > > starting to make sense to me.<G> Seriously,
I agree that
> sailing
> > > is a good
> > > > analogy for trading, but not for the reasons you have
stated.
I
> > > think
> > > > sailing is a good analogy for trading because in order
to be
> > > successful, one
> > > > must join with the huge natural forces at work.
If one tries
to
> > > fight these
> > > > forces they will be destroyed. If one can unite and
redirect
> these
> > > forces to
> > > > ones advantage, one should be able to progress quite
swiftly.
> > > >
> > > > Gann fans - the ideal position to attain maximum
speed is to
> have
> > > the sail
> > > > at a 45 degree angle to the wind.
> > > >
> > > > Nautically,
> > > >
> > > > Norman
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "reinar2020" <reinar2020@xxxx>
> > > > To: <realtraders@xxxx>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:33 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [RT] forecasting-track record
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Elk
> > > > >
> > > > > Not only will I continue to use sailing as a
metaphor but I
> will
> > > > > expand the use. There are several reasons. Selling
to "the
> > > traders"
> > > > > market is too limiting and more imortant.... If you
can
think
> > > like a
> > > > > sailor you can think like a profitable
trader......
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you have ever been sailing you would know that
it is kind
> of a
> > > > > zen like experience where you have a very specific
focus.
All
> the
> > > BS
> > > > > that is provided by the media etc is gone.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are other advantages. Any monkey can draw an
Andrews
> line
> > > and
> > > > > if you read his totally incomplete
"free" 60 page lit.... at
> any
> > > > > time there are at least 20 or so that come in
tomorrow. So
> which
> > > > > ones do you use? Rather than take the standard
approach of
> here
> > > are
> > > > > the lines .....let get overwhelmed with stuff that
is
> useless.....
> > > > >
> > > > > I will focus upon about 3 kinds of sand bars and a
marker.
> > > > > I did something similar in Vienna seminars and the
sucess
> rate of
> > > > > the students over a long time period was very
high.
> > > > >
> > > > > Focus upon the chicken ( the end result.. you
really want )
> not on
> > > > > the eggs.
> > > > >
> > > > > We look for 4 things...
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) sand bars (support and resistance lines) where
prices
stop
> for
> > > a
> > > > > bar or 2 and then go through
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) sand bars where prices go through and then go
back to it
to
> > > touch
> > > > > it before continuing in the proper direction
> > > > >
> > > > > (the above are very handy for adding on positions
or getting
> in
> > > with
> > > > > definable risk....the other side of the sand bar
line)
> > > > >
> > > > > 3) and finally sand bars that are likely to
produce a
> tradeable
> > > > > pivot ....like i pointed out on thursday in an
email I sent
> out.
> > > > >
> > > > > 4) and then how to find markers (probable future
pivot
points)
> > > > >
> > > > > Now instead of learning how to draw all of those
silly lines
> you
> > > > > learned how to draw lines that produced the
> above .......wouldn't
> > > > > Andrews really work .....and very easily at that?
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh by the way did you ever learn what the Andrews
"ROS" line
> was?
> > > > > Hint....its a sand bar.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > R
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In realtraders@xxxx, Infernal Elk
<infernalelk@xxxx>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> John either you are blind or
you faded the forecast.
> > > > > > >> ...or does north mean go short
to you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> R
> > > > > >
> > > > > > maybe if you spoke in market terms rather
than cryptic
> pseudo-
> > > > > poetic
> > > > > > "nautical" terms, people would
understand you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > if your desire is to communicate, then do so
CLEARLY. if
> your
> > > > > desire
> > > > > > is to tease and to draw people in to buy your
product
> you'll do
> > > > > better
> > > > > > to speak clearly as well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > we're not sailors. we're traders.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - *lk
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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