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Re: [RT] What happened to the Hurst cycle?



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  Subject: Re: [RT] What happened to the 
  Hurst cycle?
  
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  FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 7/3/02 5:16:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
  jwhite43@xxxxxxx writes:Exactly 
  what I was referring to, but not as eloquently described. Now, do 
  human events effect market cycles or do the cosmic cycles effect human 
  events?
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  FAMILY="SANSSERIF">NW: Or are they coincidental as a result of a third 
  force?  That was the conclusion of Edward R. Dewey, founder of the 
  Foundation for the Study of Cycles. <FONT 
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  FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Cheers,Norman
  
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  TYPE="CITE">I have followed the discussion on Hurst cycles with silence but 
    now Ibelieve it is time to speak up.The Hurst book actually has some 
    very significant content however his basicpremise has been proven to be 
    incorrect. Hurst presents several statementswith out verification. For 
    example " The impact of wars, global financialcrisis, and all other 
    similar events on market price action is utterlynegligible." It has been 
    shown through the application of chaotic modelsthat these impulses do 
    have an impact although they are limited in theirduration.The use of 
    static cycles to forecast future price movement is also doomed 
    tofailure. There have been many attempts to duplicate and forecast 
    priceaction with composite static cycles and all have failed simply 
    because themarket is not composed of static cycles. Even an attempt to 
    determine thecurrent dominant cycles will fail because the cycles will 
    change due tolateset conditions. The new information may or may not be 
    in the directionof the old cycles.A much more likely composition, also 
    supported by studiesof chaotic models, is that the market is composed of 
    dynamic cycles withdiminishing amplitude. Since these cycles are always 
    changing, due to thelatest impulse to impact the market, they are 
    predictable only in the veryshort term. The real value of Hurst's work 
    is to show that profits aremaximized by short term 
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