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FWIW, I use PATS on a separate machine. There was
no insistence or indeed recommendation, but it does seem prudent.
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<A title=salam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 11:25
PM
Subject: RE: [RT] PATSYSTEMS
PROBLEM
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana">Been
talking to Refco top tech people almost all afternoon.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> They in turn have been talking to
Patsystem tech people. They are
hoping that it might just be a temporary router problem to their servers.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> I think not.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> They have been very courteous but I
have not even got anywhere with being able to download the demo.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> I guess Friday is another day.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> I take it I am not the only one having
problems migrating to Patsystems.
Any other ideas ?
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana">Incidentally,
did your people insist/recommend you to run Patsystems on a separate pc as it
may interfere with your current data feed, or rather your current data feed
and Patsystems run together on one pc can cause
problems.
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[mailto:irat@xxxxxxxxx]Sent:
03 July 2002 23:13To:
realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<SPAN
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PROBLEM
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<FONT face=Verdana color=black
size=3>Haven't done business with
Refco in years, but in the past they were always quick to respond and remedy
any problem. Have you tried calling their office, not the customer
service, and talk to some one in the know or with a little power? Ira.
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<P class=MsoNormal
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt">Thanks
for your reply.The problem is even earlier than that.I basically cannot
connect to the Refco servers.I cannot be sure that the connection to the Refco
servers is only a temporary problem. But this inability to connect has
persisted for two days.Whatever the case, this can’t be very
reliable.Obviously something has to give
soon. <SPAN
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apologise for the mega-enormous font size on my last email…musta gotten
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<SPAN
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face=Tahoma color=black size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Ira Tunik [<A
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<SPAN
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realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<FONT face=Tahoma color=black
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<SPAN
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face=Tahoma color=black size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Re: [RT]
PATSYSTEMS PROBLEM
<SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal
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face=Verdana color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">If there is anything in
your setup that blocks Java and you will be unable to use the PATS
system. with all the mascinations that MSFT is going through to void
Java, one of your programs might be the cause. that is where I would
look first. EI 5.5 should be OK. I believe that it was IE 6.0 that
blocked Java. <SPAN
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wrote: <SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 36pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 24.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana">I
believe its common to get problems when downloading the Proptrader Demo.I am
having problems trying to dowload the
demo.<SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal
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have tried to do a tracert to the Refco dns number, but it seems to halt at a
particular dns number.When doing a nslookup of that, the domain comes up as
non existent.<FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 36pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 24.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana">Anybody
had anything similar ?<FONT
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am using Windows 2000.There is no firewall.I do have Microsoft Virtual Machine
for I.E.I am using I.E. 5.5.I am using a DSL Connection.The service provider
seems to be getting the same problem when he tries to ping the Refco dns
number.Refco running out of ideas
too.<SPAN
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