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  M. 
  Simms 
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  Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 9:58 PM
  Subject: RE: [RT] Investing now & 
  cycles #1
  
  Wow - nice 
  chart.....but am I wrong on this:
  The Dow Jones 
  essentially WENT NOWHERE between 1965 and 1983, a period of 18 YEARs 
  ??
  yes, it rocked 
  and rolled in between, but I am talking buy and hold here.
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  Could the 
  market of 2002 -> 2020 be in for a similar fate ?
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  Yes, that is 
  what I have been saying.  Great market for traders. Terrible market for 
  long term investors. 
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  <FONT color=#0000ff 
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  <FONT color=#0000ff 
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    [mailto:wd78@xxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 12:25 
    AMTo: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [RT] 
    Investing now & cycles #1
     
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      SLAWEKP@xxxxxxx 
      
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      Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 1:07 
      PM
      Subject: [RT] Investing now & 
      cycles #1
      Yes, repeating cycle is absolutely correct.It 
      proved to me many times that not watching TV, not reading newspapers, not 
      applying fundamentals or geopolitical events but following very long, 
      long & intermediate cycles will keep your investments on right 
      side.In fall of 1999 in  search of irregular B- wave top 
      found chapter  on Benner- Fibonacci cycle in book  that I 
      purchased 13 years ago (nice FIBO #) . After study I was amazed of its 
      accuracy. The theory was developed in 1875 almost 124 yrs ago & 
      predicted all major market swings & crashes incl., 1929, 1987 well 
      known to us short term mortals.At that point chart ended as low in 
      1987. I applied same methodology to that chart. It told me 
      that we should have low in 1995 (market made low in Dec 1994, 1 month 
      before 1995), then rally to 2000 (march 2000 top in most bubble up 
      Nasdaq index). I shared this chart with one of member of this group 
      Howard Bernstein. At the time people would stone me to death for 
      such forecast, so I keep it for my own use. Accordingly I adjusted my 
      business by trimming capital spending & expenses & saving cash 
      to survive downturn. At the time my competitors expended by borrowing. 
      After 9-11 received few call from them if I want to buy them out. Few 
      months later got calls from their lenders if I do not want take over 
      inventory from liquidation.Benner chart served me well in business as 
      well shorting stocks. As You can see Benner was not influenced by 
      media, geopolitical events or new unknown to him technology 
      discovery.Man is genius. His next low point is 2003In attached 
      Benner-Fibocycle pdf written by Robert Prechtor he mention Benners 
      work on page #8 chart #6.I named this chart  "$milloin dollar 
      chart." If You CEO of big corp. & have knowledge of power of this 
      chart You would not made capital expansions, preserve cash, stop 
      taking more debt & saved millions of shareholders 
      investments  $$$ in Your company.From shorter cycles, Martin 
      Armstrong 8.6 yr. cycle due Nov 2002 predicted in 1999 where he said 
      every 8.6 years there is GLOBAL Capital shift in markets. At this 
      point we know world is parting away from US $$$$$. His date could be 
      acceleration or low for dollar. That remain to be 
      seen.Intermediate cycles, Sun-Mars cycle 25.8 months (110-112 
      weeks) developed by James Brock of Triad Research and lately 
      rediscovered  by researcher Steve Puetz.This cycle is part of 
      Armstrong cycle (4 X 25.8 months =103.2 m =8.6 yr.) & points 
      to bad fall/ winter of 2002then most important is famous 9 month 
      cycle due 6-21-2002.if You take 9-21-01 & add 9 months = 
      6-21-02.9 month cycle is part of Armstrong 8.6 yr. cycle12 X 8.6 
      months = 103.2 months = 8.6 yrs8.6 months is close enough to 9 
      months for such length of cycleThen very short term cycles 10 
      & 20 weeks all arrivedon low due 9-21-01 & now 
      6-21-02,when 10 , 20 week & 9 month (40 weeks) cycles clustering 
      on same dates  the more power to decline.in addition 
       20 yr cycle give warning sell short may 12th till June 
      21st 40 yr cycle (20 x 2)       
      sell short  march 16th till June 
      25th SlawekPs. since attach are to large & my 
      email was returned I will split in few series with # 
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