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so what ? who cares whether someone listens in ? there are financial chat
groups all over the place, many free ones. anyone can join here fairly
easily.
dw/h1
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Kent Rollins wrote:
> Wrong. Anyone who reads the RFC on the IRC protocol and is a reasonably
> adept programmer can write an app to receive all IRC traffic and filter and
> sort it as they wish. You don't have to do a man-in-the-middle packet
> interception. Bob, you're not trying to mislead people. You know as well
> as anyone that all IRC traffic can easily be intercepted.
>
> I repeat my warning: anyone using IRC should always assume they are not
> alone.
>
> Kent
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [RT] chat room
>
>
> Not quite true. Undernet, (for instance), has 34 servers located all
> around the world. If a person wanted to "listen in" to the chat from one
> channel, they would have to "sniff" the traffic coming over that server and
> there would be hundreds of thousands of messages or lines which would be
> sent to our 22,000 channels by individuals. The "sniffer" would then have
> to find just the lines of traffic that were generated in one individual
> channel which would be .. well, it would be time consuming to the
> extreme. Now, add to this mix the fact that members would not all be on
> the same server but might sign on to any of those 34 servers and you would
> have to sniff them all and piece the traffic together for the single chat
> channel in order so they would make sense. Add to this that the only
> people with core access to the server are the server admins who happen to
> work at the mostly ISP's that donate bandwidth and the problem is no longer
> a problem, it is simply and purely, impossible. ie: No one can see
> channel chat unless they are in the channel and we control who that is.
>
> Last, IF Interpol could get search warrants and court orders in affect for
> all the European, U.S. and Canadian server owners to cause them to search
> every tiny packet of data flowing over all 34 servers and IF that data
> could then be compiled into a cohesive flow of data flowing to/from one
> channel segment and if all this was arranged prior to the hour/day they
> wanted to see what was being said, it IS possible. But then, so is an end
> to income tax in the U.S. and democrats leading the effort to cancel
> them. :)))
>
> Bob
>
> At 04:27 PM 4/24/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >mIRC does work on Windows NT and 2K. IRC is a great way to pass the day
> for
> >anyone who has not tried it.
> >
> >I strongly caution everyone however: IRC communications are NOT PRIVATE.
> >Even if you set up a private chat room or a private channel between
> yourself
> >and someone else, all IRC communications can easily be intercepted without
> >your knowledge. Always assume that someone else is listening while you are
> >on IRC.
> >
> >Kent
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <bobskc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 4:21 PM
> >Subject: [RT] chat room
> >
> >
> >
> >I am just beginning a thread on the topic of a chat room for the group. I
> >don't know how many of you are on Irc or have been on Irc but it is
> >Internet Relay Chat and there are several chat networks. I help run one of
> >the largest, (it may be the largest now, I don't keep track), which is
> >Undernet. For those who don't know, to use Irc, one has to have a chat
> >program and the most popular of these is mIRC which runs on all windows
> >versions. (Not positive about NT but I believe it's ok too).
> >
> >If we set up a chat room, we could type back and forth live and exchange
> >ideas in real time. For those who are full time traders, this might be an
> >excellent way to get new ideas as things happen. (Or for those who can be
> >on the internet at work and want to keep an eye on things).
> >
> >I'm about to leave my Florida home for my place in Tennessee so I won't be
> >able to organize this for a little bit but if there is sufficient interest,
> >I'll put out some more details on where to get the mIRC chat program free,
> >how to set it up and how to get to the undernet and then to our channel we
> >would establish there. We would be able to block anyone we don't want in
> >the channel or to remove anyone who is being crude, rude or whatever. Just
> >an idea to extend our sharing of ideas.
> >
> >Bob
> >
> >
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