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Hey Chaos Fans,
Here is a link to the Santa Fe Institute and
several of their research papers.
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Chaotically,
Norman
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Jim White
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Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 9:11
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Tom,
The application of the science of chaos to
analysis of financial markets has shown them to be resemble chaotic systems.
As such , they have limited memory and are subject to new influences. From a
predictive standpoint, this implies they are forecastable only over the short
term since new, unforcastable events will influence future movements.As
chaotic systems, markets should be described as non linear systems rather than
the linear approach that static cycle analysis infers.
If you want to learn more, I have some papers on
my site at PivotTradwer.com which should be of interest.
Jim White
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Tom
Bowen
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Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 1:18
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Kent,
Honest questions derived from professional
curiosity and a sincere desire to improve all our trading
skills, no intent other than what is clearly stated below is implied or
should be perceived.
You said "IN REALITY, the markets are totally
chaotic".
Do you believe the markets are totally random
and contain no patterned behavior ?
I believe a detailed study of
the historical price activity of each market does reveal a
definitive patterned and predictive behavior for that specific
market.
You said "You will never become a professional
trader by drawing geometric patterns on charts".
Did you believe there is no geometry involved
in market price behavior ?
I believe that a detailed study of the
geometrical behavior of historical price activity for any given market does
reveal geometric patterns that can be extremely powerful in predicting
future price activity behavior for the specific market being
studied.
I would be extremely interested in opening
a dialog with you via the list as I believe we could explore these
positions/beliefs to the benefit of ourselves and many of the
other subscribers to the list.
God Bless and best wishes in all your future
endeavors,Tom
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Rollins
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Good point on the methods discussed on this list.
And I think that does thenewbies on the list a disservice. As
humans, our brains want to formpatterns and see the market respond to
pleasant shapes like squares andgentle waves. IN REALITY, the
markets are totally chaotic. You will neverbecome a professional
trader by drawing geometric patterns on charts. Butnewbies don't
know this. They think that mystical methods have merit.
Thislist doesn't exist to disabuse newbies of that notion, but more
and more itexists to promote those methods. And like you said,
most of the quants aregone.List often do have agendas that are
not spelled out. And the fact that Markattacked BobsKC for being
a vendor and now BobsKC is the
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<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 9:41
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interrogatoriesKR> Not a list where anyone with an email
account tosses outKR> completely hypothetical crap about what the
market may or may notKR> do over a hypothetical timeframe.
How about you?It may have to do with how people on this list
think. I seem to detecta strong bias against quantitative methods, and
an open-arms receptionto mystical methods. There is *very* little
hard-nosed quantitativediscussion on this list, and most of the
'quants' are gone, some bybeing banned. It seems that this attitude is
desired by the members,and is not likely to change.Lists
generally have agendas that are NOT spelled out in thedescription, and
it is these hidden agendas that seem to cause
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