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Re: [RT] Re: option update



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Closed positions produce income. On the closed 
positions you said you made $8575.00. If not closed it is not income. It is a 
hope, a dream, a possibility, an illusion, a mind trip.
You still have not clarified with your one-liner. 
The drawdown on the April calls 
 of 2004 was $26750.00 at the time the closed 
options generated $8575.00 in profit. You say," I am forgetting the income 
from the calls sold". Once again, Were these calls  to close or open. If 
they were to open they do not result in P&L until they are closed, epired, 
or terminated in some other manner. Using your own words you say "on the CLOSED 
positions we are ahead $8575". You fail to mention the drawdown of $26750.00. In 
addition you now want to count as income proceeds of calls sold prior to their 
being closed out.
nice weekend,
Dom
   
 
    
    
 
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  Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 7:38 
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  Subject: Re: [RT] Re: option update
  
  you are forgetting the  income from the calls 
  sold
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    Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 2:10 
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    Subject: Re: [RT] Re: option 
    update
    
    Ben,
       
      How can you be ahead $8575.00 if the 
    current value of the Jan. 2004 call is 6.70. 175x 6.70 is 
    $117250.00=current value. Cost of this entity was $144000.00 minus 
    $117250.00=$26750.00 drawdown. How can you accumulate money if you put 8 
    dollars in one pocket and you just lost 20+ in the other pocket 
    .  Keep It simple KISS, as you like to say, so everyone who is 
    interested can follow clearly what you are doing. Yor posts regarding this 
    spread have not been clear at all. Is it possible this is the same spread 
    you said Guaranteed no loss, no drawdown? 
     
    Dom
     
     
     
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      Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:28 
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      Subject: Re: [RT] Re: option 
      update
      
      Now that I have time let me finish
      the closing of the long  175 qavph resulted in a 
      LOSS of  $12500
      selling 175 qqqfj   result in income 
      of   $30625
      and
      buying protection again  175  qavqh  
      cost $21000
      current value
      175 IRIAI  is  $120750
      175 short  qqqfj  is worth  
      $28875
      and long qavgh  is worth $21875
      on the closed  positions we are ahead  
      $8575  in 4 week  for a $133000  investment
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        Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 
        10:11 AM
        Subject: [RT] Re: option 
        update
        
        just to let you know
        we got filled on the buy to close  175 qqqej 
        at  1.75
        net profit  $21075
        next
        we are selling   qavph
        order to sell at.75
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          Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 
          10:03 PM
          Subject: option update
          
          current value
           
          remember  purchasing  130000 of options  in the 
          last 4 weekshere is the update as of today closehere is 
          the update as of today closelong   175   
          IRIAI   total cost  $144000 current value 
          $$133000long   175  QAVPH    
          cost  $25625   current value $ 
          11375short   175  QQQEJ   sold  
          $44875  current   profit  $16000have order to 
          buy  back to close@  
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