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Gila,
Thanks for the Israeli info. Please see my
reply to US 1st Ammendment rights below.
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:
Gila
Brock
To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 8:19
PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Israel
I'm sorry, but you are seriously
misinformed. Have you ever been here? Is your only source of information
CNN?
Do you know that there are Arab MK's in
the Knesset who preach the destruction of Israel from the Knesset podium? Do
you know that this is allowed because we have free speech? Even the U.S.
doesn't go this far. If I'm not mistaken, it is a crime to advocate the
overthrow of the U.S. government and is not covered under "free
speech."
NW: The 1st Ammendment guarantees
that you can say anything you want as long as it doesn't create a clear and
present danger, such as yellling "FIRE" in a theater when there is no fire.
What you can't do is actively conspire to violently overthrow the US
government. That's a no no. Of course, some things that you can
say under the 1st Amendment, may get you sued for libel or slander if they are
false and damaging to someone. However, there is a broad examption for this in
regard to public figures.
So, you can go on TV and say the
Prez is a monkey and he can't do much about it. Such is the price of fame in a
free society.
Cheers,
Norman
Do you know that almost all Israeli
Arabs live in peace with Jewish Israelis and do not support
Arafat?
Do you know that the wives and children
of the first Arab-Israeli suicide bomber will receive monthly support of $2500
because they are widows and orphans?
I could go on. But I advise you to do
some of your own research because reaching conclusions based on
nothing.
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To: <A
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title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 1:09
AM
Subject: RE: [RT] Israel
<FONT color=navy face=Arial
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style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Israel?
democratic? – Yes very but only
if you are Jewish!
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<FONT
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<FONT color=navy
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Australians phone: 02 9527
4690<FONT color=#339966 face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
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<FONT color=navy
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4690 USA Phone
Fax: 1 312<SPAN
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Brock [mailto:brock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]<SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent: Friday, 21 September 2001
9:58To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: Re: [RT]
Israel
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<FONT color=black
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reasoning is a bit simplistic. Egypt receives the second largest amount of
U.S. foreign aid in the Middle East. Is that because of the influence of the
American-Egyptian community? Oh, come on. <FONT
color=black><SPAN
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<FONT color=black
face="MS Sans Serif" size=2><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Isn't it
just possible that Israel is a natural ally of the U.S. because of its
shared democratic values?<SPAN
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From:<FONT color=black
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href="mailto:david@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=david@xxxxxxxxxxxx>David Hunt
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21, 2001 12:46 AM<SPAN
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Israel<SPAN
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reason is obvious.: The Jewish Community in the US is very influential
politically.
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US was the biggest supporter of the creation of the State of Israel after
the Holocaust.
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Community. That’s also why Usucka Bon
Garbage
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have targeted the WTC.
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12:52To:
realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<SPAN
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style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I have been
searching the web for information why the USA so steadfastly backs Israel?
I am not looking to inflame anyone I am only attempting to
understand. This is a question that is burning inside many Americans and is
referred to as an "inside thought". That is something that people would like
an answer to but realize it is politicalli incorrect to ask.
Could someone direct me to a source that may answer this issue for
me as well as others? Thank you in advance,
JAC<SPAN
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