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Gila,
Given how close you are to the situation, your patience and voice of
reason on this issue is exemplary. It is only through discourse like
this that misinformation can be combated and blind prejudice
eliminated.
JW
--- In realtraders@xxxx, "Gila Brock" <brock@xxxx> wrote:
> David,
>
> It's easy for you to be cute. But our existence is at stake, with
the U.S. our only friend, and who knows if that will last. I just
can't joke about it.
>
> If you'd like to do some serious reading, there's a book
called "From Time Immemorial," by Joan Peters, a British historian.
She started out doing research for Jimmy Carter on the Palestinian
cause, from a pro-Palestinian point of view. She even interviewed
Arafat (this was when he was in Lebanon and not easy to get to by a
Western researcher). After doing much thorough work, she produced
this substantial tome. It is probably the best historical analysis of
the Palestinian-Israeli conflict ever done. She did not start out
with a pro-Israeli bias, but read the book if you want to invest the
time and effort to understand the situation in a not superficial way.
>
> The political struggle here is not about Palestinian "rights" in
the way that you might understand it. It is nothing like the civil
rights struggle in America. I met a young, liberal, Jewish American
travelling around Israel last summer. He came here to see how "we
were oppressing the Palestinians and denying them their rights." He
could only imagine the problem based on his "model" of the struggle
of the blacks in the U.S. for their rights. He imagined that Arabs
weren't being treated at hospitals, that Arabs were being denied all
basic civil rights. He probably thought they had to sit in the back
of the bus and drink from separate water fountains. He was very
surprised when he couldn't find any evidence to support his "model."
>
> This is a complex situation we're in. You don't have to spend time
your time learning about it, but don't form opinions about it if you
don't.
>
> With deepest wishes for peace on earth, everywhere,
>
> Gila
>
>
> From: David Hunt
> To: realtraders@xxxx
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 1:43 AM
> Subject: RE: [RT] Israel
>
>
> Gilla,
>
> Why would it be a crime to advocate the over throw of the US
Government?
>
> As far as I know every 4 years its enshrined in legislation!
>
> David Hunt
>
> http://www.adest.com.au/
>
> Australians phone: 02 9527 4690
>
> International: 612 9527 4690
> USA Phone Fax: 1 312 577 0491
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gila Brock [mailto:brock@x...]
> Sent: Friday, 21 September 2001 10:20
> To: realtraders@xxxx
> Subject: Re: [RT] Israel
>
> I'm sorry, but you are seriously misinformed. Have you ever been
here? Is your only source of information CNN?
>
> Do you know that there are Arab MK's in the Knesset who preach
the destruction of Israel from the Knesset podium? Do you know that
this is allowed because we have free speech? Even the U.S. doesn't go
this far. If I'm not mistaken, it is a crime to advocate the
overthrow of the U.S. government and is not covered under "free
speech."
>
> Do you know that almost all Israeli Arabs live in peace with
Jewish Israelis and do not support Arafat?
>
> Do you know that the wives and children of the first Arab-Israeli
suicide bomber will receive monthly support of $2500 because they are
widows and orphans?
>
> I could go on. But I advise you to do some of your own research
because reaching conclusions based on nothing.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: David Hunt
>
> To: realtraders@xxxx
>
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 1:09 AM
>
> Subject: RE: [RT] Israel
>
>
>
> Israel? democratic? - Yes very but only if you are Jewish!
>
>
>
> David Hunt
>
> http://www.adest.com.au/
>
> Australians phone: 02 9527 4690
>
> International: 612 9527 4690
> USA Phone Fax: 1 312 577 0491
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gila Brock [mailto:brock@x...]
> Sent: Friday, 21 September 2001 9:58
> To: realtraders@xxxx
> Subject: Re: [RT] Israel
>
>
>
> Your reasoning is a bit simplistic. Egypt receives the second
largest amount of U.S. foreign aid in the Middle East. Is that
because of the influence of the American-Egyptian community? Oh, come
on.
>
> Isn't it just possible that Israel is a natural ally of the U.S.
because of its shared democratic values?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: David Hunt
>
>
>
> To: realtraders@xxxx
>
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:46 AM
>
> Subject: RE: [RT] Israel
>
>
>
> The reason is obvious.: The Jewish Community in the US is very
influential politically.
>
> The US was the biggest supporter of the creation of the State of
Israel after the Holocaust.
>
>
> New York is the Centre of the US Jewish Community. That's also
why Usucka Bon Garbage
>
> Would have targeted the WTC.
>
>
>
> David Hunt
>
> http://www.adest.com.au/
>
> Australians phone: 02 9527 4690
>
> International: 612 9527 4690
> USA Phone Fax: 1 312 577 0491
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JAC1390@xxxx [mailto:JAC1390@x...]
> Sent: Friday, 21 September 2001 12:52
> To: realtraders@xxxx
> Subject: [RT] Israel
>
>
>
> I have been searching the web for information why the USA so
steadfastly backs Israel?
>
> I am not looking to inflame anyone I am only attempting to
understand. This is a question that is burning inside many Americans
and is referred to as an "inside thought". That is something that
people would like an answer to but realize it is
> politicalli incorrect to ask.
>
> Could someone direct me to a source that may answer this issue
for me as well as others?
>
> Thank you in advance,
> JAC
>
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