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Norman,
Where?
Speaking freely,
Gila
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Norman
Winski
To: <A title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 1:39
AM
Subject: Re: [RT] Israel
Gila,
Thanks for the Israeli info. Please see my
reply to US 1st Ammendment rights below.
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:
Gila
Brock
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 8:19
PM
Subject: Re: [RT] Israel
I'm sorry, but you are seriously
misinformed. Have you ever been here? Is your only source of information
CNN?
Do you know that there are Arab MK's
in the Knesset who preach the destruction of Israel from the Knesset podium?
Do you know that this is allowed because we have free speech? Even the U.S.
doesn't go this far. If I'm not mistaken, it is a crime to advocate the
overthrow of the U.S. government and is not covered under "free
speech."
NW: The 1st Ammendment
guarantees that you can say anything you want as long as it doesn't create a
clear and present danger, such as yellling "FIRE" in a theater when there is
no fire. What you can't do is actively conspire to violently overthrow the
US government. That's a no no. Of course, some things that you
can say under the 1st Amendment, may get you sued for libel or slander if
they are false and damaging to someone. However, there is a broad examption
for this in regard to public figures.
So, you can go on TV and say the
Prez is a monkey and he can't do much about it. Such is the price of fame in
a free society.
Cheers,
Norman
Do you know that almost all Israeli
Arabs live in peace with Jewish Israelis and do not support
Arafat?
Do you know that the wives and
children of the first Arab-Israeli suicide bomber will receive monthly
support of $2500 because they are widows and orphans?
I could go on. But I advise you to do
some of your own research because reaching conclusions based on
nothing.
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Hunt
To: <A
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 1:09
AM
Subject: RE: [RT] Israel
<FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Israel?
democratic? – Yes very but
only if you are Jewish!
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<FONT
color=navy>David Hunt<FONT
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color=navy size=3><A
href="http://www.adest.com.au/";>http://www.adest.com.au/<FONT
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<FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=navy size=3>Australians
phone: 02 9527 4690<FONT face=Arial
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<FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">International: 612 9527
4690 USA
Phone Fax: 1 312<SPAN
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Message-----From: Gila
Brock [mailto:brock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]<SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent: Friday, 21 September 2001
9:58To: <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: Re: [RT]
Israel
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<FONT face="MS Sans Serif"
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'">Your
reasoning is a bit simplistic. Egypt receives the second largest amount of
U.S. foreign aid in the Middle East. Is that because of the influence of
the American-Egyptian community? Oh, come on. <FONT
color=black><SPAN
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color=black size=3><SPAN
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<FONT face="MS Sans Serif"
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'">Isn't
it just possible that Israel is a natural ally of the U.S. because of its
shared democratic values?<SPAN
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From:<FONT face=Arial
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title=david@xxxxxxxxxxxx href="mailto:david@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>David Hunt
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<SPAN
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September 21, 2001 12:46 AM<FONT face=Arial color=black
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> RE: [RT]
Israel<SPAN
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reason is obvious.: The Jewish Community in the US is very influential
politically.
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US was the biggest supporter of the creation of the State of Israel after
the Holocaust.
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class=EmailStyle19>New York is the Centre of the US
Jewish Community. That’s also why Usucka Bon
Garbage
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have targeted the WTC.
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12:52To:
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Israel<SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have been
searching the web for information why the USA so steadfastly backs Israel?
I am not looking to inflame anyone I am only attempting to
understand. This is a question that is burning inside many Americans and
is referred to as an "inside thought". That is something that people would
like an answer to but realize it is politicalli incorrect to ask.
Could someone direct me to a source that may answer this issue for
me as well as others? Thank you in advance,
JAC<SPAN
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