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I didn't believe you until I found this:

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/planetearth/wet_ozone_010417.html

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DanG

Michael Ferguson wrote:
> 
> Norman,
> 
> Water vapor is the largest cause of the depletion of the ozone layer. Yes
> that's right, clouds are the mortal enemy of ozone. The thing that all those
> catalytic converters create from car emissions. Yup.
> 
> Michael
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Norman Winski" <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 20:54
> Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
> 
> Dorothy,
> 
>   The only waste product from hydrogen fuel cells is water vapor.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Norman
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Dorothy Carter
>   To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 9:07 PM
>   Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
> 
>   Yes, and the same greenies that we use to see in the airports hugging
> trees and hating nukes are now embracing nuclear over oil....... how short
> our memories are.  France and other countries have successfully used nuclear
> without incident...... the bigger issue is what do you do with the waste....
> if you put it into the Atlantic or pacific ocean then someday you better not
> order Salmon dinner or Halibut steak as Halibut are bottom fish..... so
> while we may have to resort in the interim to nuclear plants we are creating
> a problem for the next generation as far as disposing of the waste...
> somehow the big bad oil companies don't seem like such
> villains................
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: wavemechanic
>     To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 8:44 PM
>     Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
> 
>     Dorothy:
> 
>     Several years ago, the DoE was advised to maintain expertise in nuclear
> energy so that when the first city goes cold and dark the country would not
> have to reinvent the wheel in order to get going.  Looks like we are just
> about there.
> 
>     Bill
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Dorothy K. Carter
>       To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>       Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:24 PM
>       Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
> 
>       AMEN....Up until 1 yr ago... I lived in Anchorage Alaska for 27yrs.
> and it
>       is taking this disaster to get the greenies to figure out the
> importance of
>       having domestic oil supply vs being so dependant on foreign oil.. It
> has
>       been a smart decision made my U.S. govt to import foreign oil while
> the
>       price of crude oil is was low priced and to save ours for a time when
> the
>       price would be high.  It is apparant that .. that time is possibly
> upon us.
>       I can assure you that the pipeline does no harm to the environment...
> in
>       fact the grass and voilage around and under the pipeline flourishes
> from the
>       warmth... and the caribou migrate close to the pipeline because of the
>       warmth...  Alaskans during the last oil embargo use to have a saying
> toward
>       the people in the lower 48 who were anti Alaskan oil development.....
> "let
>       the bas----ds freeze in the dark".. well folks... it appears that....
> that
>       time might be upon us if we can't get the politicians to understand
> the
>       importance of having ability to develop our natural resources and to
> have
>       the refineries to bring the product to the consumer.....
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: "Gila Brock" <brock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>       To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>       Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 3:52 PM
>       Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
> 
>       > This article was written by Joseph Farah, an Arab-American
> journalist, not
>       > an Israeli:
>       >
>       > The Wakeup Call
>       >
>       > Joseph Farah
>       > September 13, 2001
>       >
>       > America got its long-awaited, long-anticipated and long-dreaded
> wakeup
>       call.
>       >
>       > The terror war came home in a big way Tuesday, Sept. 11.
>       >
>       > Everything has changed. Nothing will be the same, again.
>       >
>       > Just look at the impact the slaughter and destruction had on George
> W.
>       Bush
>       > and Colin Powell, for instance.
>       >
>       > For months, as Israel has faced, on a daily basis, similar terror
>       incidents
>       > carried out by people living within its very borders, Bush and
> Powell have
>       > told the Israelis over and over again: "Show restraint. Negotiate.
> Don't
>       use
>       > excessive force. Don't retaliate. Break the cycle of violence."
>       >
>       > Yet, within hours of the blitzkrieg attack on the World Trade Center
> and
>       > Pentagon and the dramatic hijacking of four airliners, the
> Bush-Powell
>       tune
>       > had changed.
>       >
>       > There was no talk of restraint. There was no talk of negotiation.
> There
>       was
>       > no worry about excessive force. There was a promise of retaliation.
> And
>       we,
>       > as a nation, were assured that we would not lay down in hopes the
>       attackers
>       > would be satisfied with their blood toll.
>       >
>       > Bush, in fact, asserted he would hold any nation harboring the
> terrorists
>       > accountable for their actions. Israel has been coaxed and bullied by
> the
>       > U.S. to do precisely the opposite.
>       >
>       > Now the U.S. administration says it is outraged and is determined to
>       > "punish" those responsible for "the attack on freedom."
>       >
>       > I'm glad to hear it. And, far be it for me to question the sudden
> good
>       > judgment being shown in Washington. But it's illustrative of what I
> have
>       > been saying for the last year. The U.S. has been asking Israel to
> maintain
>       > an untenable course of inaction. In fact, Washington has helped to
> ensure
>       > that terrorism would spread beyond the Middle East to the shores of
> the
>       U.S.
>       > through its shaky, equivocal, timid, impotent, weak, half-way
> measures in
>       > the face of Israel's constant battle with terror.
>       >
>       > Does Bush really get it? Will he follow through on his own promise?
> Will
>       his
>       > demands on Israel change? Does he plan to follow his own advice?
>       >
>       > Who knows? Time will tell. But Americans would do well to remember
> this
>       > moment - to reflect on the pain, to recall this mourning. This is
> what
>       > Israel has been enduring in its own less dramatic way - day after
> day,
>       drip
>       > after drip, explosion after bloody explosion.
>       >
>       > Let me go further. We hear many pundits and administration spokesmen
>       naming
>       > names - Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq. Yet, I haven't heard a one
> of them
>       > mention the home state of the chief suspect - Osama bin Laden.
>       >
>       > He's not an Afghani, by the way. He's a Saudi - and that's where his
>       support
>       > comes from. That's where his money comes from. That's his lifeline -
>       > oil-rich, "moderate" Saudi Arabia.
>       >
>       > Is Washington prepared to issue ultimatums to Mecca? If not, why
> not?
>       >
>       > The answer, of course, is oil - which is why as a matter of national
>       > strategic defense, America needs to do what is necessary to achieve
> energy
>       > independence as quickly as possible. Wars do tend to get messy, you
> know.
>       > And America has the natural resources to be independent of Mideast
> oil.
>       >
>       > To do so, however, we've got to decide as a nation whether we are
> more
>       > scared of radical environmentalists or radical Muslims. That's the
> choice
>       > before us.
>       >
>       > In a very real sense, we can look at the tens of thousands of
> casualties
>       in
>       > Tuesday's horror as casualties of the radical environmentalists, who
> have
>       > persuaded Americans they would be better off dependent on foreign
> oil than
>       > on marring the landscape or causing undue stress in the elk.
>       >
>       > It's time to get serious, folks. This is war. We don't fight wars
> with
>       > people who control our vital natural resources. But we may have to
> fight a
>       > war with the people supplying us with oil. What are we going to do
> about
>       > that?
>       >
>       > Americans may be called to sacrifice. I think they're ready for such
> a
>       call.
>       > They watched the devastation on TV Tuesday. They will rise to the
>       occasion -
>       > if their leaders in Washington ask them to do so.
>       >
>       > It's a time for sacrifices. That means even the elk in Alaska may
> need to
>       > lose a few acres of real estate for the greater good - saving the
> lives of
>       > Americans.
>       >
>       >
>       >
>       > ----- Original Message -----
>       > From: Daniel Goncharoff <thegonch@xxxxxxxxxx>
>       > To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>       > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:39 PM
>       > Subject: Re: [RT] show your colors/ Oil
>       >
>       >
>       > > In the interest of helping people to know their enemy better, I
> want to
>       > > express my opinion based on research over the last year that the
> main
>       > > 'provocation' the US has committed against Islam is its continued
>       > > presence in Saudi Arabia, which is seen as hallowed ground by
> Muslims.
>       > >
>       > > I take this from translations of speeches by Osama Bin Laden,
> which are
>       > > much more available from European sources, eg the UK press, then
> they
>       > > are from US sources.
>       > >
>       > > Many Americans are perhaps deceived by the focus in the US press
> on
>       > > other Arab nations that are extremely vocal in their opposition to
>       > > Israel and, accordingly, to its strong ally the US. Most of these
>       > > governments are, in fact, supportive of the US due to our
> protection of
>       > > Kuwait against Iraq, but they are not democracies, and therefore
> also
>       > > allow anti-American feelings among their (mostly down-trodden)
> people to
>       > > continue bubbling up, diverting attention from their own regimes.
>       > >
>       > > Regards
>       > > DanG
>       > >
>       > >
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