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First responsible post I have read.
The scale of this tragedy is enormous and feelings are hurt, there is
outrage and justifiably so. Nothing can be used to justfy this murder.
However the final solution does not lie in a military option. Military
options can only have a limited impact i.e. curtailing activities of the
madmen temporarily till they start from elsewhere or a new group of mad
men come on the scene. Israel a nation that brilliantly defeated the
combined military might of the arabs had to give in to the uprising of a
civil population. We Indians threw the Brits out, I am sure I am going to
get cursed for this by the list members from the U.K. , with civil
disbedience. Point I am trying to make being - military solution will not
work long term - whether you like to admit it or not is upto you.
As Don rightly says there is a need for a mind set change. To do that you
have to bring down the negative influence of the mullahs. They are the
real culprits, a section of the religious bureaucracy to perpetuate it's
own power and hold over the people is espousng feelings of hatred for
others and glorifying murder as a road to martyrdom. Secondly you have to
address the core issues here i.e. that of the West Bank and Washington's
support to it's allies in the gulf states. The gulf states need
democracy. Today you have pliant puppets ruling there absolutely divorced
from their populaces. You better encourage those jokers to get busy with
their harems and encourage democracy in those countries. Once these
issues are addressed the raison d'etre of the mullahs exhortation for
jehad is over and their mesage loses whatever "justification"
it has today.
Whether or not the world exhibits sagacity will determine if the problem
is rooted out or exacerbated.
Rakesh
At 11:57 AM 9/13/01 -0400, you wrote:
Charts are definitely in
Order.... :)
I know this issue of terrorism is really an issue of belief. You
change
your belief, you change your point of view, one's behavior can
change. Although difficult as most traders know.
You have to figure that most people in this world are not sophisticated
in
understanding or even knowing about the
meta-structure of beliefs and how the mind operates to affirm and reify
the
person's belief system. Thus they are trapped
in a belief bubble that in itself contains potential for
destructive
behavior.
If the Koran in its wisdom, has a flawed premise that condones or allows
a
loophole for mass behavior contrary to the loving
purpose of Allah, it is incumbent upon the leadership of the Muslim
religious community and governments to work to expose
this flaw, to do some serious revisionism and start changing of their
own
cultures. No small task.
It is a task that can be done.
One can see the evolving "Human Project" as it struggles to
remove itself of
negativity.
WW1 and WW2 both key examples formed the idea of developing
interdependence
between countries to foster interaction and peaceful process.
One can look at the evolvement of American Christianity, as late as
the
1950's the common practice of preaching judgment and fire and brimstone,
has
changed from proselytizing for Christ to modeling one's behavior on
kindness, consideration, compassion, although always done, emphasis in
the
last 20's years, in my opinion, leans heavily on discoveries in
human
psychology started by Abraham Maslow.
I look at how modern public schools in the US and I expect other
country's,
have recognized the importance of self-worth and developed process
and
procedures to give young children the message that they are loved and
cared
for. Children are taught to work in teams and work for the common
good and
to solve problems. I know that the American public school
systems didn't
do this when I was in school in the '50's-60's.
Just the rhetoric of keeping race, religion out of the process of
getting
these )#(%&)(#&% terrorist's shows what this country has learned
since
interning Japanese American citizens during WW2.
In my opinion, the image of all the young boys in Palestine celebrating
the
toppling of the towers, shows that the Palestine leadership has a long
way
to
go to pro-actively changing its beliefs. They sure could use
some
proactive help...
Don Thompson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Ferguson" <wl7bdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [RT] Re: God Bless America
>
>
>
> > Mankind needs to rise above the "gods" to
survive. That is the ultimate
> > test of survival for humanity...to rise above their concepts of
gods.
Its
> > part of the natural selection process for species
survival.
> >
> > bobr
>
> Of course, Bob,
>
> this is true if your implied assumption is true; I am not convinced
you
can
> rely on a negative assertion to arrive at a positive conclusion.
eagerly
> waiting charts illustrating your concept.
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