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All I can say is AMEN!
Wait a minute, does that make me a scientist or a 'believer'?
David
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From: "ztrader" <ztrader@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 10:46 PM
Subject: [RT] On differences between traders
> On Wednesday, May 23, 2001, 4:09:56 PM, d graham wrote:
>
> dg> ps I certainly stirred up something with my "R-points".
>
> It would seem so.
>
> dg> Again I am not attacking any particular methodology or person. I
> dg> am just asking that if we are to gain maximum benefit from
> dg> belonging to such a forum that we have some basis for backing what
> dg> we propound.
>
> There's that 'basis' idea again. This seems like the recent
> astro/system battle all over again, but with a slightly different
> context.
>
> Perhaps it is *really* the age-old conflict between religion and
> science, but cast in a different form. One relies heavily on faith and
> belief, the other on systematic observation, using methods that are
> verifiable. Isn't this always what divides the two camps of traders?
>
> It is not a new debate. There have been books written about this, such
> as "History of the Conflict Between Religion and Science". Even now,
> around the world, this divide is still causing problems.
>
> The two camps have very fundamental differences in their "world view".
> Attempts of one side to get the other to understand have been dismal
> failures for a long time. We have ample evidence here to verify that
> we CANNOT close that gap even in the narrow field of trading-related
> issues.
>
> To keep peace in Traderville, I propose that we:
>
> (1) *Recognize* and *accept* this fundamental difference in world
> views.
>
> (2) Accept that there are people in both camps on this list.
>
> (3) Accept that NEITHER camp will be able to fully accept the others
> view. The believer camp will always say "don't give me that science
> c**p", and the science camp will always say "don't give me that belief
> c**p".
>
> (4) It is MOST important to realize that attempts to 'convert' the
> other camp will almost always fail. Nobody likes to have their world
> view challenged. After all, if it were, somehow, to be proven wrong,
> that person's world would 'collapse'. People have battled with their
> last breath to preserve their world view.
>
> (5) Recognize that each camp has strengths and weaknesses, pros and
> cons. In some specific areas, one camp may be of greater utility
> than the other, but neither one is superior in ALL ways to the other.
>
> (6) Given the above, ideas can be presented as being in one camp or
> the other. One may to try to bridge the gap and see if a portion of
> one can become part of the other (as I did with the astro/stat
> thread), but it MUST be recognized that this is an extremely difficult
> job, and the bridging attempt should terminate BEFORE the exchange
> gets ugly.
>
> Just a few thoughts - what do you think?
>
> ztrader
>
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