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On Wednesday, May 23, 2001, 4:09:56 PM, d graham wrote:
dg> ps I certainly stirred up something with my "R-points".
It would seem so.
dg> Again I am not attacking any particular methodology or person. I
dg> am just asking that if we are to gain maximum benefit from
dg> belonging to such a forum that we have some basis for backing what
dg> we propound.
There's that 'basis' idea again. This seems like the recent
astro/system battle all over again, but with a slightly different
context.
Perhaps it is *really* the age-old conflict between religion and
science, but cast in a different form. One relies heavily on faith and
belief, the other on systematic observation, using methods that are
verifiable. Isn't this always what divides the two camps of traders?
It is not a new debate. There have been books written about this, such
as "History of the Conflict Between Religion and Science". Even now,
around the world, this divide is still causing problems.
The two camps have very fundamental differences in their "world view".
Attempts of one side to get the other to understand have been dismal
failures for a long time. We have ample evidence here to verify that
we CANNOT close that gap even in the narrow field of trading-related
issues.
To keep peace in Traderville, I propose that we:
(1) *Recognize* and *accept* this fundamental difference in world
views.
(2) Accept that there are people in both camps on this list.
(3) Accept that NEITHER camp will be able to fully accept the others
view. The believer camp will always say "don't give me that science
c**p", and the science camp will always say "don't give me that belief
c**p".
(4) It is MOST important to realize that attempts to 'convert' the
other camp will almost always fail. Nobody likes to have their world
view challenged. After all, if it were, somehow, to be proven wrong,
that person's world would 'collapse'. People have battled with their
last breath to preserve their world view.
(5) Recognize that each camp has strengths and weaknesses, pros and
cons. In some specific areas, one camp may be of greater utility
than the other, but neither one is superior in ALL ways to the other.
(6) Given the above, ideas can be presented as being in one camp or
the other. One may to try to bridge the gap and see if a portion of
one can become part of the other (as I did with the astro/stat
thread), but it MUST be recognized that this is an extremely difficult
job, and the bridging attempt should terminate BEFORE the exchange
gets ugly.
Just a few thoughts - what do you think?
ztrader
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