[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

[RT] RE: General - ADX



PureBytes Links

Trading Reference Links

<x-html>
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META content=text/html;charset=x-user-defined http-equiv=Content-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<META content="MSHTML 5.00.2722.2800" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=200184714-27092000>Joe - 
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=200184714-27092000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=200184714-27092000>I 
respectfully disagree with your assertions regarding my analysis completely. 
Almost the complete rise in ADX occurred during the market's rally. To say that 
one day of gains and a drop in the index says that the ADX move is now 
controlled by the recent bearish trend makes little sense. ADX initially fell as 
prices dipped and then started to rise a tiny bit as prices fell most recently. 
Yes, that does imply a weakening of the downtrend short-term, however that is 
not a reason to buy for anything but a bounce.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=200184714-27092000>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=200184714-27092000>The 
general rule is that when&nbsp;ADX moves above DI, the move is over extended. 
That does not however mean that there should be&nbsp; reversal. The odds of a 
real reversal are much higher if ADX is above 40, which it is (and was) not. 
Obviously, much of the increase in ADX is due to the recent price drop, but ADX 
needed time to slide from its very high level caused by the large rally over the 
summer. Remember, the DIs are 14-day smoothed, then DX is smoothed by 14-days as 
the ratio of the difference between DI+ and DI- over the sum of the two, then 
ADX is the 14-day smoothing of that. There is nothing INCORRECT in what either 
of us is saying, it is all how we interpret it. Nothing in this business is 
black and white. We have the same expectations short-term 
anyway.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=200184714-27092000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=200184714-27092000>By the 
way, ADX is again rising, and if we do fall sharply in the next couple of days, 
could easily move back above DI-.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>---<BR>Steven W. Poser, President<BR>Poser Global Market 
Strategies Inc.<BR><A href="http://www.poserglobal.com/"; 
target=_blank>http://www.poserglobal.com</A><BR>swp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Tel: 
201-995-0845<BR>Fax: 201-995-0846</FONT> </P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> listmanager@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  [mailto:listmanager@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>On Behalf Of </B>BobR<BR><B>Sent:</B> 
  Wednesday, September 27, 2000 10:13 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 
  realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> [RT] General - 
  ADX<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
  </B>Joe Duffy &lt;<A 
  href="mailto:joeduffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>joeduffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
  </B>bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx &lt;<A 
  href="mailto:bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>bobrabcd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
  </B>Wednesday, September 27, 2000 6:55 AM<BR><B>Subject: 
  </B>rt<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>
  <P><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=3>Hi Bob:</FONT></P>
  <P>&nbsp;</P>
  <P><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=3>Cannot post to Real Traders. Cud u 
  post for me. My comments start.....</FONT></P>
  <P>&nbsp;</P>
  <P>&nbsp;</P>
  <P><STRONG>Steve Poser wrote:</STRONG></P>
  <P><STRONG>"I would not use ADX in that way at all. Note that DI- has been 
  above ADX almost every day since February in the Comp. The trend there has 
  been flat to down for the whole period. All you can say about DI- moving above 
  ADX is that there is risk that the current trend is extended a bit and that we 
  need to go sideways." </STRONG></P>
  <P><STRONG>…….ACTUALLY WHAT IS MORE SIGNIFICANT IS ADX FALLING BELOW -DI as it 
  did 2 days ago. That’s your first sign the downtrend is 
weakening.</STRONG></P>
  <P><STRONG>=================================================="</STRONG></P>
  <P><STRONG>However, remember that ADX is very smoothed. Most of the increase 
  in ADX occurred due to the rally in August/September". </STRONG></P>
  <P><STRONG>……If your talking 14 period ADX this statement is not correct. ADX 
  rose on Tuesday’s large drop, where the low was significantly below the 
  previous days low indicating unequivocally ADX is reflective of the current 
  decline.</STRONG></P>
  <P><STRONG>================================================</STRONG></P>
  <P><STRONG>"If anything, right now, the indicator is telling us that we can go 
  sideways, but a turn down in ADX now would mean that the BULLISH cycle is 
  weakening, not the bearish".</STRONG></P>
  <P><STRONG>……Not correct as stated above.</STRONG></P>
  <P>&nbsp;</P><STRONG>
  <P>" Furthermore, weekly ADX is near 10, saying the big picture still shows no 
  trend. I'd stand up and take notice when that starts moving higher. I fear 
  that it could be to the down side".</FONT> </STRONG></P><FONT size=2>
  <P><STRONG>……That might well be true directionally on a weekly basis. As well 
  though, ADX readings near 10 in most market environments reflect an absence of 
  trend and volatility that is usually going to revert to the mean. So this is 
  hunting ground for potential trade ideas. </STRONG></P></FONT><FONT size=2>
  <P><STRONG>On a short term basis I throw my hat in the sideways to higher 
  short term.</STRONG></P></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

</x-html>