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<DIV><FONT size=2>Maybe we should all concentrate on creating indicators
that identify the patterns and support-resist levels-and give alerts when they
are present.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Steve</FONT></DIV>
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<A href="mailto:t-bondtrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=t-bondtrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>T-Bondtrader</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 07, 2000 2:28
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Indicators</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is a re-send, as it has not appeared (on my
screen!)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>>With all due respect, you<BR>> seem to
have quite a narrow definition of "indicator<BR><BR>I don't mean to take this
sentence out of context, but I believe that it is<BR>the nub the
issue.<BR><BR>Indicators are, so far as I am concerned, all those in the
analysis<BR>techniques box in my Supercharts. I have collected
over 100 in my time and<BR>they are all lagging and, for day trading purposes
useless.<BR><BR>Take today's action on the bonds: look at the
chart and you will see<BR>exactly what I mean. Price patterns,
support and resistance and other<BR>tools will give you a much better and
faster and more profitable result than<BR>using an indicator. That
ADX was right - miles after the event. Fine,<BR>perhaps, for position
trading, or showing how clever it is after the action<BR>is all over - but,
frankly, useless to a day trader who is reading the<BR>market as it goes
along.<BR><BR>The wedge or whatever you want to call it was the signal.
At the time.<BR>Clear and simple. No lagging. No the ball.
What else do you want? The<BR>J-Hook into new territory was
the signal. Measuring the retracement means<BR>using a tool, not an
indicator. Support and resistance are facts in
the<BR>market. They are not indicators. They happened and
can be relied on.<BR>Price action is the market showing what it is doing, as
it is doing it. If<BR>it forms a wedge it is telling what it is
doing. What indicator can work as<BR>fast or as accurately as
that? What? Tell me. I will use it.
So would<BR>about 50 or so others on this list who trade in my like
fashion.<BR><BR>Anyone can use whatever they like. That is there
privilege. All I know is<BR>that what I have found to work and can show
works, works.<BR><BR>'Nuff said. Supper time over
here...<BR><BR><BR><BR>Bill Eykyn<BR><A
href="http://www.t-bondtrader.com";>www.t-bondtrader.com</A><BR>"Learn to read
the tape"<BR><BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bill Eykyn<BR><A
href="http://www.t-bondtrader.com";>www.t-bondtrader.com</A><BR>"Learn to read
the tape"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Maybe we should all concentrate on creating indicators
that identify the patterns and support-resist levels-and give alerts when they
are present.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Steve</FONT></DIV>
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title=t-bondtrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>T-Bondtrader</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 07, 2000 2:28
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Indicators</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is a re-send, as it has not appeared (on my
screen!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>>With all due respect, you<BR>> seem to
have quite a narrow definition of "indicator<BR><BR>I don't mean to take this
sentence out of context, but I believe that it is<BR>the nub the
issue.<BR><BR>Indicators are, so far as I am concerned, all those in the
analysis<BR>techniques box in my Supercharts. I have collected
over 100 in my time and<BR>they are all lagging and, for day trading purposes
useless.<BR><BR>Take today's action on the bonds: look at the
chart and you will see<BR>exactly what I mean. Price patterns,
support and resistance and other<BR>tools will give you a much better and
faster and more profitable result than<BR>using an indicator. That
ADX was right - miles after the event. Fine,<BR>perhaps, for position
trading, or showing how clever it is after the action<BR>is all over - but,
frankly, useless to a day trader who is reading the<BR>market as it goes
along.<BR><BR>The wedge or whatever you want to call it was the signal.
At the time.<BR>Clear and simple. No lagging. No the ball.
What else do you want? The<BR>J-Hook into new territory was
the signal. Measuring the retracement means<BR>using a tool, not an
indicator. Support and resistance are facts in
the<BR>market. They are not indicators. They happened and
can be relied on.<BR>Price action is the market showing what it is doing, as
it is doing it. If<BR>it forms a wedge it is telling what it is
doing. What indicator can work as<BR>fast or as accurately as
that? What? Tell me. I will use it.
So would<BR>about 50 or so others on this list who trade in my like
fashion.<BR><BR>Anyone can use whatever they like. That is there
privilege. All I know is<BR>that what I have found to work and can show
works, works.<BR><BR>'Nuff said. Supper time over
here...<BR><BR><BR><BR>Bill Eykyn<BR><A
href="http://www.t-bondtrader.com";>www.t-bondtrader.com</A><BR>"Learn to read
the tape"<BR><BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bill Eykyn<BR><A
href="http://www.t-bondtrader.com";>www.t-bondtrader.com</A><BR>"Learn to read
the tape"</FONT></DIV>
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anyone know where I can get ACCURATE data for the last 2 months
for the DAY SESSION ONLY for the Sept SP500???? Thanks in advance..
Matt
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