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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>List, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sarcasm seems to escape many on the list (I guess
it's offensive to anyone who didn't grow up in Detroit).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. Yes my eod vendor can adjust splits on the
chart. The problem is that the "Amerikan public" has difficulties
understanding the price movement unless you leave the splits in the price
charts. I used to get emails that told me my prices where wrong
because:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"AMAT was trading at 170 a few days ago and you
chart is wrong because you don't have it any higher than 90".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. Internally I do adjust the splits and then
apply my mechanical indicators (whaddya think I am, dumb and educated in the
Detroit Public Schools systems...holy moly).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3. It seems that a number of astute(?) list
members think that my signal was generated simply because the stock split and
suddenly the stock gapped down 50%. Duh, the "gap down opening" humor was
just that...humor (sarcasm). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>4. You cowboys out there that think you know
momentum oscillators I'm applying to the markets or what rules constitute a buy
or sell signal should "choke" back your subjective opinions. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm more than willing to share trading ideas and
exchange formulae (less willing lately...too many parasitic leaches), but
when folks are calling shots to the list about what does or does not constitute
a signal for me....it makes me giggle. I will continue to "lay it on the
table" (as I do everyday of my trading career), but before anyone tells the
forum that the only reason I triggered a trade is because of a split...it might
behoove you to first totally understand the math behind the positions.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Actually, I have a pet monkey and the proverbial
dart board. That's my real secret. Maybe, the subjective
reviewers of my positions can speculate about what type of ape I'm
using.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So, I've been so busy this morning trading futures,
I haven't looked at AMAT. Did it fill the 80 point gap that it created on
the opening yesterday?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dripping with sarcasm and good looks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com">http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A href="mailto:sptrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
title=sptrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>sptrader</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx"
title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve Karnish</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 17, 2000 10:42
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: equity play-AMAT</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Looks like a stock split- don't you have to adjust for the
split , then re-apply the system ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Steve</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
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<A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx" title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve
Karnish</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> ; <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 16, 2000 8:45
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> equity play-AMAT</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>List,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My mechanical trading approach has been
very accurate with AMAT this year. The attached chart shows the buying
signals generated during the past twelve months. Tomorrow is the first
buying signal since early in the year. The five star rating is my
highest buying recommendation and is based on underlying strength of
trend. The buying signal is generated with a simple momentum
oscillator.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com">http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Subject: Re: equity play-AMAT
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:25:46 -0800
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>List, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sarcasm seems to escape many on the list (I guess
it's offensive to anyone who didn't grow up in Detroit).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. Yes my eod vendor can adjust splits on the
chart. The problem is that the "Amerikan public" has difficulties
understanding the price movement unless you leave the splits in the price
charts. I used to get emails that told me my prices where wrong
because:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"AMAT was trading at 170 a few days ago and you
chart is wrong because you don't have it any higher than 90".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. Internally I do adjust the splits and then
apply my mechanical indicators (whaddya think I am, dumb and educated in the
Detroit Public Schools systems...holy moly).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3. It seems that a number of astute(?) list
members think that my signal was generated simply because the stock split and
suddenly the stock gapped down 50%. Duh, the "gap down opening" humor was
just that...humor (sarcasm). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>4. You cowboys out there that think you know
momentum oscillators I'm applying to the markets or what rules constitute a buy
or sell signal should "choke" back your subjective opinions. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm more than willing to share trading ideas and
exchange formulae (less willing lately...too many parasitic leaches), but
when folks are calling shots to the list about what does or does not constitute
a signal for me....it makes me giggle. I will continue to "lay it on the
table" (as I do everyday of my trading career), but before anyone tells the
forum that the only reason I triggered a trade is because of a split...it might
behoove you to first totally understand the math behind the positions.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Actually, I have a pet monkey and the proverbial
dart board. That's my real secret. Maybe, the subjective
reviewers of my positions can speculate about what type of ape I'm
using.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So, I've been so busy this morning trading futures,
I haven't looked at AMAT. Did it fill the 80 point gap that it created on
the opening yesterday?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dripping with sarcasm and good looks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com">http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:sptrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
title=sptrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>sptrader</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx"
title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve Karnish</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 17, 2000 10:42
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: equity play-AMAT</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Looks like a stock split- don't you have to adjust for the
split , then re-apply the system ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Steve</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx" title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve
Karnish</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> ; <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 16, 2000 8:45
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> equity play-AMAT</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>List,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My mechanical trading approach has been
very accurate with AMAT this year. The attached chart shows the buying
signals generated during the past twelve months. Tomorrow is the first
buying signal since early in the year. The five star rating is my
highest buying recommendation and is based on underlying strength of
trend. The buying signal is generated with a simple momentum
oscillator.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com">http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Subject: [RT] Re: remember Saddam
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:19:34 GMT
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Status:
If you believe Jane's, China is not equiped to invade Taiwan and won't be
for several years. They could, however, lob a few missles in that direction
and they are a nuclear power. The problem is that conflict in Taiwan would
create uncertainty and uncertainty breeds fear and fear breeds panic.
Dan
>From: HBernst963@xxxxxxx
>Reply-To: HBernst963@xxxxxxx
>To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [RT] Re: remember Saddam
>Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:55:48 EST
>
>Wouldn't an invasion of Taiwan just create more demand for U.S. chip
>companies? Since invading Taiwan would not affect the oil supply, what's
>the
>problem?
>
>Howard
>
>
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