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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>List,&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sarcasm seems to escape many on the list (I guess 
it's offensive to anyone who didn't grow up in Detroit).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1.&nbsp; Yes my eod vendor can adjust splits on the 
chart.&nbsp; The problem is that the "Amerikan public" has difficulties 
understanding the price movement unless you leave the splits in the price 
charts.&nbsp; I used to get emails that told me my prices where wrong 
because:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"AMAT was trading at 170 a few days ago and you 
chart is wrong because you don't have it any higher than 90".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2.&nbsp; Internally I do adjust the splits and then 
apply my mechanical indicators (whaddya think I am, dumb and educated in the 
Detroit Public Schools systems...holy moly).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3.&nbsp; It seems that a number of astute(?) list 
members think that my signal was generated simply because the stock split and 
suddenly the stock gapped down 50%.&nbsp; Duh, the "gap down opening" humor was 
just that...humor (sarcasm).&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>4.&nbsp; You cowboys out there that think you know 
momentum oscillators I'm applying to the markets or what rules constitute a buy 
or sell signal should "choke" back your subjective opinions.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm more than willing to share trading ideas and 
exchange formulae (less willing lately...too many&nbsp;parasitic leaches), but 
when folks are calling shots to the list about what does or does not constitute 
a signal for me....it makes me giggle.&nbsp; I will continue to "lay it on the 
table" (as I do everyday of my trading career), but before anyone tells the 
forum that the only reason I triggered a trade is because of a split...it might 
behoove you to first totally understand the math behind the positions.&nbsp; 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Actually, I have a pet monkey and the proverbial 
dart board.&nbsp;&nbsp; That's my real secret.&nbsp; Maybe, the subjective 
reviewers of my positions can speculate about what type of ape I'm 
using.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So, I've been so busy this morning trading futures, 
I haven't looked at AMAT.&nbsp; Did it fill the 80 point gap that it created on 
the opening yesterday?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dripping with sarcasm and good looks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A 
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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  <A href="mailto:sptrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=sptrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>sptrader</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve Karnish</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 17, 2000 10:42 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: equity play-AMAT</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Looks like a stock split- don't you have to adjust for the 
  split , then re-apply the system ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Steve</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    <A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve 
    Karnish</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
    title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> ; <A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 16, 2000 8:45 
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> equity play-AMAT</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>List,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My mechanical&nbsp;trading approach has been 
    very accurate with AMAT this year.&nbsp; The attached chart shows the buying 
    signals generated during the past twelve months.&nbsp; Tomorrow is the first 
    buying signal since early in the year.&nbsp; The five star rating is my 
    highest buying recommendation and is based on underlying strength of 
    trend.&nbsp; The buying signal is generated with a simple momentum 
    oscillator.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A 
    href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Subject: Re: equity play-AMAT
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:25:46 -0800
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>List,&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sarcasm seems to escape many on the list (I guess 
it's offensive to anyone who didn't grow up in Detroit).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1.&nbsp; Yes my eod vendor can adjust splits on the 
chart.&nbsp; The problem is that the "Amerikan public" has difficulties 
understanding the price movement unless you leave the splits in the price 
charts.&nbsp; I used to get emails that told me my prices where wrong 
because:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"AMAT was trading at 170 a few days ago and you 
chart is wrong because you don't have it any higher than 90".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2.&nbsp; Internally I do adjust the splits and then 
apply my mechanical indicators (whaddya think I am, dumb and educated in the 
Detroit Public Schools systems...holy moly).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3.&nbsp; It seems that a number of astute(?) list 
members think that my signal was generated simply because the stock split and 
suddenly the stock gapped down 50%.&nbsp; Duh, the "gap down opening" humor was 
just that...humor (sarcasm).&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>4.&nbsp; You cowboys out there that think you know 
momentum oscillators I'm applying to the markets or what rules constitute a buy 
or sell signal should "choke" back your subjective opinions.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm more than willing to share trading ideas and 
exchange formulae (less willing lately...too many&nbsp;parasitic leaches), but 
when folks are calling shots to the list about what does or does not constitute 
a signal for me....it makes me giggle.&nbsp; I will continue to "lay it on the 
table" (as I do everyday of my trading career), but before anyone tells the 
forum that the only reason I triggered a trade is because of a split...it might 
behoove you to first totally understand the math behind the positions.&nbsp; 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Actually, I have a pet monkey and the proverbial 
dart board.&nbsp;&nbsp; That's my real secret.&nbsp; Maybe, the subjective 
reviewers of my positions can speculate about what type of ape I'm 
using.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So, I've been so busy this morning trading futures, 
I haven't looked at AMAT.&nbsp; Did it fill the 80 point gap that it created on 
the opening yesterday?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dripping with sarcasm and good looks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A 
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A href="mailto:sptrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=sptrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>sptrader</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve Karnish</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 17, 2000 10:42 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: equity play-AMAT</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Looks like a stock split- don't you have to adjust for the 
  split , then re-apply the system ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Steve</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE 
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    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    <A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve 
    Karnish</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
    title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> ; <A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
    title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 16, 2000 8:45 
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> equity play-AMAT</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>List,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My mechanical&nbsp;trading approach has been 
    very accurate with AMAT this year.&nbsp; The attached chart shows the buying 
    signals generated during the past twelve months.&nbsp; Tomorrow is the first 
    buying signal since early in the year.&nbsp; The five star rating is my 
    highest buying recommendation and is based on underlying strength of 
    trend.&nbsp; The buying signal is generated with a simple momentum 
    oscillator.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A 
    href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Subject: [RT] Re: remember Saddam
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If you believe Jane's, China is not equiped to invade Taiwan and won't be 
for several years.  They could, however, lob a few missles in that direction 
and they are a nuclear power.  The problem is that conflict in Taiwan would 
create uncertainty and uncertainty breeds fear and fear breeds panic.

Dan

>From: HBernst963@xxxxxxx
>Reply-To: HBernst963@xxxxxxx
>To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [RT] Re: remember Saddam
>Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:55:48 EST
>
>Wouldn't an invasion of Taiwan just create more demand for U.S. chip
>companies? Since invading Taiwan would not affect the oil supply, what's 
>the
>problem?
>
>Howard
>
>

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