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[RT] Re: Bryce Gilmore's Challenge of Astro Trading



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David,

I agree with everything that you said.
And I promptly ordered the book, of course.
The same book has been written so many times in so many names, but a rose is 
still a rose. : )

Thanks for a thoughtful reply.

                           Darrin


>From: "David Hunt" <adest@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: adest@xxxxxxxxxx
>To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>CC: <wavetraders@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <aussie_metastock_list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,        
>"Get_Traders@xxxxxxxxxxx" <get_traders@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [RT] RE: Bryce Gilmore's Challenge of Astro Trading
>Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:05:35 +1100
>
>Hi Darrin and Norman,
>
>Darrin your summation of Bryce Gilmore is correct.  His attacks are not
>personal.  They are more what he sees as the truth as to what helps more
>people make money. Norman - Bryce's attack was not on you per se. Its 
>pretty
>easy to take it that way when
>
>Norman, if someone asks me what a good Astro Course they could do I say
>"WINSKI's". One of Bryce's good mates is Larry Pasavento. They have spent a
>lot of time together over the years.
>
>I also know you are a good Elliott head I sometimes winder if that helps 
>you
>more as you know market structure better than most. Bryce's book has 40 or
>so pages devoted to Astro work and then he says take or leave it and that 
>he
>finds the Geometry is better.
>
>However the reality is for most people the Astro stuff is too complex and
>fries their brains.  We had one "well known - persona identity" in 
>Australia
>charging more than A$30,000 for a weekend (for one guy it was 2 lots of 3
>hours - boy was his wife surprised when he came back a few hours after
>leaving each day!!). Most of the people who paid for this were left - in
>their own words - "angry and confused".  We see all this money poured into
>learning Astro by people we know and we don't see any of them do any better
>in the markets usually its better
>
>I assume you have read THE CROSS of THE MAGI:
>
>"THE MAGI DISCOVERED THAT THE ARITHMETICAL NUMBERS EXPRESSED BY THE
>CHRONOLOGICAL RELATIONS OF SUN AND MOON TO EARTH WERE IDENTICAL WITH THOSE
>THAT SOLVED THE GEOMETRICAL PROBLEM OF THE SQUARING OF THE CIRCLE"
>
>That basically tells you that if you have the Geometry right the Astrology
>falls into place. That is Bryce's point.
>
>David Hunt
>http://www.adest.com.au/
>US Callers phone: 1 312 577 0491
>Australians phone: 02 9527 4690
>International: 612 9527 4690
>
>Darrin Vernier wrote:
>
> > Norman,
> >
> > >Bryce says, "anyone
> > >who uses a clock is a coo-coo. Norman tells time using a clock.
> >
> > What makes you believe that Bryce isn't using a clock?
> >
> > If you believe he isn't using a clock then what he uses isn't, to you.
> >
> > >From what I have seen of Bryce, he sees two kinds of clocks.
> >
> > He learned to tell time with both, and found that FOR HIM, one was more
> > accurate and applicable to his trading.
> >
> > The reverse might be true for you.
> >
> > You're both holding a different part of the same elephant.
> > Looking at different aspects of the same clock.
> >
> > Is it more productive to argue about whether the elephant is a tree or 
>an
> > angel, or to see the whole elephant?
> >
> > Does the same hold true for clocks?
> >
> > When is a circle not a circle?
> >
> > Is 3:00 90 degrees? So many trading days? A planetary aspect?
> >
> > If planets can aspect, can numbers as well?
> >
> > There is a story about people speaking different languages.
> > It is called the 'Tower of Babble'.
> >
> > When they began speaking different languages they became more intent on
> > destroying one another rather than noticing that what they both were
>saying
> > was much the same and that they could each learn from the other.
> >
> >                                              Babyloningly,
> >                                              Darrin,
>
>   Darrin,
>
>       I agree. You have argued my point well. Bryce indicted me for using
>Astrology, when in fact he apparently is also using Astrology. I am all for
>learning from others. In fact, I tried to contact Bryce several times, 
>about
>10
>years ago, leaving messages on his answering machine. But, he never 
>returned
>my
>calls. I  have not corresponded or talked to Bryce since I briefly met him
>at a
>1989 conference where I was a speaker. Now,  out of left field comes this
>hypocritical attack. He has probably never even looked at a sample of my
>work,
>let alone corresponded with me. He is in no position to judge me. He must
>have a
>list of possible competitors on a wheel, he spins the pointer, and sees who
>will
>be his next "victim of the week". I guess it was my turn this week.
>Ironically,
>it seems while trying to shoot me, he shot himself in the foot.
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Norman
>
>

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