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[RT] Re: Predicting vs. reacting was: Bryce, Gann, etc etc.



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cb wrote:

> You guys/gals really believe that beans respond to planets and geometry
> instead of being rather unpredictable depending on crops sizes, weather,
> farm bills etc.?

NW: planets, geometry, crop sizes, weather, and farm bills are all
connected. You can check some of the connections at
http://www.alpes-net.fr/~j_p_desm/sun.html


> Connectedly,

   Norman

>
>
> I looked at a past example from someone saying that rye stopped at 103
> because pluto and mars were in conjunction at 103 deg. and it seems
> crazy.  When I see a geometric chart with lines on it, I see something
> that might look neat on the wall but doesn't do anything predictive for
> me, maybe because I don't know the underlying principles.
>
> Then again, I contemplate my depleted trading account, and realize what
> I did in the past was terribly ineffective by method or by money
> management.  And I know people like Mr. Winski runs a newsletter that
> have trades that are actually profitable acc. to third party monitoring
> (at least for the 2 years I was looking).   So whether the planets help
> these guys isolate cycles in the markets (whether or not the planets per
> se having anything to do with it) or not, something is working (even if
> it's just because they manage trades well, and not due to the entries at
> all).
>
> Since curtailing and now actually suspending trading, I have worked on a
> system which needs testing but involves pretty much routine indicators.
> While i've tried to avoid large amounts of lag, the system is still for
> the most part reactive not predictive - in the sense that it gets on a
> trend or reversal that has occured, rather than trying to predict it.
> And after that for the most part it has only a trailing stop.  No
> targets, but there can occassionally be a "loss of signal" exit.  If the
> bet was right I'll make a profit.  If the bet was wrong, I'll take a
> loss.
>
> I also subscribe to the omega list.  To some extent it seems there's a
> gulf between most system traders and chartists.  System traders seem to
> be more interested in managing betsize and drawdowns in order maximize
> profits gained by winning trades that their systems almost stumble on.
> (I'm exaggerating. but my point is the average system isn't too smart;
> it sticks it's toe in the water to see if a profit is there).  Chartists
> seem to spend a lot more time on predicting.  Or at least the ones that
> emphasize "order in the markets", do.
>
> Is this dichotomy (predicting vs. reacting) only in my own mind?  Is
> predicting better for rebuilding a tiny account, because the drawdownss
> will be lower?
>
> I just spent almost $200 on 5 books: 2 on money management (Jones,
> Balsara), 1 on options (Natenburg), 1 on candlesticks (Morris), and 1 on
> cycles (Hurst).  Should i have gotten Ewave, Gann, and astrological
> materials instead?  Miner?  Dinapoli or other fibonacci?
>
> Conrad Bowers