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[RT] RE: Bryce Gilmore's Challenge of Astro Trading



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Hi Darrin and Norman,

Darrin your summation of Bryce Gilmore is correct.  His attacks are not
personal.  They are more what he sees as the truth as to what helps more
people make money. Norman - Bryce's attack was not on you per se. Its pretty
easy to take it that way when

Norman, if someone asks me what a good Astro Course they could do I say
"WINSKI's". One of Bryce's good mates is Larry Pasavento. They have spent a
lot of time together over the years.

I also know you are a good Elliott head I sometimes winder if that helps you
more as you know market structure better than most. Bryce's book has 40 or
so pages devoted to Astro work and then he says take or leave it and that he
finds the Geometry is better.

However the reality is for most people the Astro stuff is too complex and
fries their brains.  We had one "well known - persona identity" in Australia
charging more than A$30,000 for a weekend (for one guy it was 2 lots of 3
hours - boy was his wife surprised when he came back a few hours after
leaving each day!!). Most of the people who paid for this were left - in
their own words - "angry and confused".  We see all this money poured into
learning Astro by people we know and we don't see any of them do any better
in the markets usually its better

I assume you have read THE CROSS of THE MAGI:

"THE MAGI DISCOVERED THAT THE ARITHMETICAL NUMBERS EXPRESSED BY THE
CHRONOLOGICAL RELATIONS OF SUN AND MOON TO EARTH WERE IDENTICAL WITH THOSE
THAT SOLVED THE GEOMETRICAL PROBLEM OF THE SQUARING OF THE CIRCLE"

That basically tells you that if you have the Geometry right the Astrology
falls into place. That is Bryce's point.

David Hunt
http://www.adest.com.au/
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Australians phone: 02 9527 4690
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Darrin Vernier wrote:

> Norman,
>
> >Bryce says, "anyone
> >who uses a clock is a coo-coo. Norman tells time using a clock.
>
> What makes you believe that Bryce isn't using a clock?
>
> If you believe he isn't using a clock then what he uses isn't, to you.
>
> >From what I have seen of Bryce, he sees two kinds of clocks.
>
> He learned to tell time with both, and found that FOR HIM, one was more
> accurate and applicable to his trading.
>
> The reverse might be true for you.
>
> You're both holding a different part of the same elephant.
> Looking at different aspects of the same clock.
>
> Is it more productive to argue about whether the elephant is a tree or an
> angel, or to see the whole elephant?
>
> Does the same hold true for clocks?
>
> When is a circle not a circle?
>
> Is 3:00 90 degrees? So many trading days? A planetary aspect?
>
> If planets can aspect, can numbers as well?
>
> There is a story about people speaking different languages.
> It is called the 'Tower of Babble'.
>
> When they began speaking different languages they became more intent on
> destroying one another rather than noticing that what they both were
saying
> was much the same and that they could each learn from the other.
>
>                                              Babyloningly,
>                                              Darrin,

  Darrin,

      I agree. You have argued my point well. Bryce indicted me for using
Astrology, when in fact he apparently is also using Astrology. I am all for
learning from others. In fact, I tried to contact Bryce several times, about
10
years ago, leaving messages on his answering machine. But, he never returned
my
calls. I  have not corresponded or talked to Bryce since I briefly met him
at a
1989 conference where I was a speaker. Now,  out of left field comes this
hypocritical attack. He has probably never even looked at a sample of my
work,
let alone corresponded with me. He is in no position to judge me. He must
have a
list of possible competitors on a wheel, he spins the pointer, and sees who
will
be his next "victim of the week". I guess it was my turn this week.
Ironically,
it seems while trying to shoot me, he shot himself in the foot.


Cheers,

Norman