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Norman has an analog clock with hands that say 3:00.
Bryce has a digital clock that says 3:00.
Can you choose which one is right, or is there a different way of looking at
this?
With Utmost Respect,
Darrin
P.S. Unleash the hounds...
>From: nwinski <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> bryce-@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [RT] Bryce Gilmore's Challenge of Astro Trading
>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 00:46:17 -0800
>
> Ref:
>
> > http://www.eGroups.com/group/get_traders/146.html?
> >
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bryce Gilmore & Associates bryce-@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: RealTraders realtrader-@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 6:30 PM
> Subject: Fw: [RT] Re: Gann the method
>
> > BG: I am not a member of realtraders but it will be interesting to see
>if they
> > publish this.
> > Bryce.
> >
> NW: Unfortunately for you Bryce, you got your wish. I shall now prove
> that you don't know what you are talking about which will surely
> reduce or erase your credibility as a supposed Gann expert. Please
> see the rest of my reply after Bryce's post.
>
> > Bryce Gilmore wrote:
>
> To Real Traders,
> >
> > I hope this is not taken the wrong way by your members - and I
> trust you
> > will publish it to them for the sake of education.
> >
> > I am not against people who use astrology in the markets - but I
> don't
> know
> > any who do who make any serious money from that angle.
> >
> > I got this copy of Norman's email relayed to me so I am not sure
> which bus
> > he is stepping off. But I do know that Gann was not an astrology
> freak
> only
> > an observer of planetary phenomena in relation to natural cycles.
> >
> > Norman Winski or Norman if you allow me to be personal has a way of
> exciting
> > people into the mysterious, if Norman knows what Gann was about he
> would
> be
> > a little less careless with his statements.
> >
> > Gann was about using the dynamic action of the market to find
> resistance
> and
> > support, his planetary studies are related to seasonal time periods
> between
> > expected change in trend. When one goes into astrology the options
> become
> > limitless.
> >
> > So, my message is this, Anyone who believes Gann is based on
> astrology
> > should stand back and take another look. Teachers such as Norman W
> who
> claim
> > Gann was all about astrology are using you and you will never be
> able to
> > check whether their claims have any validity, cause the astrology
> aspect
> > only repeats about every 25,000 years.
> >
> > Hope this is of use to your group.
> > regards,
> > Bryce Gilmore.
>
> NW: I will now refer you and the list to a book that is commonly
> available. Please retrieve a copy of Perry Kaufman's Trading Systems
> & Methods, Copyright 1978, published by John Wiley & Sons, ISBN
> 0-471-03569-6. Please turn to page 202 where Kaufman shows a copy of
> Gann's famous 1948 Soybean chart. Bryce, you see just to the right of
> the left hand price axis, between 260 and 264? What is that curvey
> funny looking "4" ? Could it be the glyph for Jupiter? Oh, you don't
> think so? Ok, there is another funny 4 just a little bit higher and
> about two inches to the right. This one has that funny 4 followed by
> a "30" and an arrow pointing up and to the right. Bruce, if you knew
> any Astrology, you would know that means that the funny looking 4 is
> the glyph for Jupiter, the 30 means 30 degrees, an the arrow is the
> glyph for the zodiacal sign Sagittarius. Still don't believe it? Just
> check an ephemeris (table of planetary
> tables - translated for pseudo Gann experts like Bryce) and you will
> see that Jupiter was actually at that position at the time the chart
> was drawn. To make a long analysis short, this type of stuff is all
> over that chart. Jupiter, Mars, signs, etc. So, if Gann didn't use
> Astrology, why did he bother to have hand drawn all those intricate
> Astrological symbols on his Soybean chart? Oh, by the way, he shows
> Mars
> forming a conjunction with Jupiter right at the top of the Soybean
> market. Gann's former partner, JC, with whom I spoke with, said Gann
> went short there based on Astrology. JC also said that Gann was
> "primarily Astrological". I later had JC confirmed as the real deal
> by Billy Jones and Phyllis Kahn, both who were respected Gann experts
> long before anyone had ever heard of a "Bryce". You can also read my
> essay, "What You Need To Know About W.D. Gann" on this subject which
> was published with a copy of Gann's Soybean chart with Astrological
> indications all over it. As you can see from Kaufman's book, I didn't
> plant those Astrological symbols on the chart. My essay was published
> in Traders's World Magazine circa 1988 and is now offered as part of
> their archive collection. You can check their website,
> <http://www.tradersworld.com> find the archive index, and you will
> see my name in issue #3 for "W.D. Gann and Astrology by Norman
> Winski"..
> So Bryce, I don't expect you to be transformed overnight. But,
> perhaps if you do your homework, sometime in the near future, you
> will realize the errors of your ways and decide to study Astrology. I
>
> may even consider accepting you as my student. Then, you may be able
> to honestly call yourself a Gann expert. Let me know how it goes.
> Oh, if you thought the Soybean chart was just a one time fluke,
> I have alot more of Gann's stuff with Astrological references. I
> think you must have missed of few of my posting here. Try not to miss
> class in the future. <G>
>
> Cosmically,
>
> Norman Winski
>
> P.S. Bryce, membership in Realtraders is free, if you are a real
> trader. <G> Oh my gosh! I just checked out Bryce's wavetrader
> website, http://www.wavetrader.com ( nice plug, huh Bryce?) and found
> the following.
>
> "Planetary Research Module: Programmed into the Software.
>
> Bryce's new book gives you the methodology and the software
> gives you the
> ways and means to research the effect of planetary phenomenon
> on
> markets!"
>
> So Bryce, why are you using Astrology in your trading products and
> then criticizing me for using it? Seems a bit hypocritical to me.
> Case closed! Bryce, nice joke, guess you were just pullin my chain
> huh?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bryce Gilmore & Associates bryce-@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: RealTraders realtrader-@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 6:30 PM
> Subject: Fw: [RT] Re: Gann the method
>
> > To Real Traders,
> >
> > I hope this is not taken the wrong way by your members - and I
> trust you
> > will publish it to them for the sake of education.
> >
> > I am not against people who use astrology in the markets - but I
> don't
> know
> > any who do who make any serious money from that angle.
> >
> > I got this copy of Norman's email relayed to me so I am not sure
> which bus
> > he is stepping off. But I do know that Gann was not an astrology
> freak
> only
> > an observer of planetary phenomena in relation to natural cycles.
> >
> > Norman Winski or Norman if you allow me to be personal has a way of
> exciting
> > people into the mysterious, if Norman knows what Gann was about he
> would
> be
> > a little less careless with his statements.
> >
> > Gann was about using the dynamic action of the market to find
> resistance
> and
> > support, his planetary studies are related to seasonal time periods
> between
> > expected change in trend. When one goes into astrology the options
> become
> > limitless.
> >
> > So, my message is this, Anyone who believes Gann is based on
> astrology
> > should stand back and take another look. Teachers such as Norman W
> who
> claim
> > Gann was all about astrology are using you and you will never be
> able to
> > check whether their claims have any validity, cause the astrology
> aspect
> > only repeats about every 25,000 years.
> >
> > Hope this is of use to your group.
> > regards,
> > Bryce Gilmore.
> >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "nwinski" nwinsk-@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > To: vaugh00-@xxxxxxx
> > > Cc: realtrader-@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 6:59 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [RT] Re: Gann the method
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > vaugh00-@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Of the several texts that address Gann's methods , which does
> the
> best
> > > job
> > > > > teaching the subject . What are the groups thoughts ?
> thanks tom
> > > vaughan
> > > >
> > > > Tom,
> > > >
> > > > Here is my Gann test. If the teacher doesn't know
> Astrology, they
> > > don't
> > > > know Gann. That should
> > > > eliminate a good portion of the Gann teachers and authors.
> > > >
> > > > Here is my Gann tip. Don't bother trying to learn Gann
> until you
> > have
> > > a
> > > > very good foundation in the basic principles of Astrology.
> > > >
> > > > You are welcome to contact me by private e-mail if you have
> > questions,
> > > want
> > > > more information, or want to share some very funny jokes.
> > > >
> > > > Co(s)mically,
> > > >
> > > > Norman
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > P.S. You will need a good sense of humor if you want to study
> Gann's
> > > writings.
> > > > He loves to play with
> > > > your brain. <G>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> >
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