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Sophie wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bryce Gilmore & Associates <bryceg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Sophie <trade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [RT] GANN/GILMORE {01}
>
> > Sophie,
> > Reply to Gwenn.
> >
> > Gwenn I did not start out as a loser, I have been a winner from day one,
> > that is the point. if you think I am a bastard just go into the pits at
> the
> > CBOT and find out how many pleasantries you get from the guys who work
> > there. Get real and learn. Most of the shit you hear in the rooms you
> > inhabit are designed to rip money out of your pocket. I might be a
> complete
> > anomaly but I do try and help people who continually get it in the ass
> from
> > brokers, urgers and idealists.

>
> > Bryce.,

          Are you or were you a floor member at the CBOT?  I didn't realize that
you were so well known on the trading floor that everyone knows your name? I
don't remember hearing about you when I was trading there?  In which pit did you
primarily trade and what years where you there?

Mahzel Tov,

Norman Winski


>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Sophie <trade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: bryce <bryceg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 9:33 PM
> > Subject: Tr: [RT] GANN/GILMORE {01}
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Gwenael Gautier <ggautier@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: Sophie <trade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Cc: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 12:31 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [RT] GANN/GILMORE {01}
> > >
> > >
> > > > I don't know you, Bryce, but the way you respond is not making you
> good
> > > > publicity. Bragging is not a trait of consistent winning traders, nor
> is
> > > > trashing those who wonder about you. If you are good, fine, only you
> can
> > > > know, but you could have said the same things without needing to
> > > > diminish others. Any winner starts out at a loser first, you should
> > > > remember your own losing years and how you felt then before making fun
> > > > of people whom you deems are losing, without even knowing. As one day
> > > > these might well beat the shit out of you in performance and what will
> > > > you say then? Sorry to have abused you, or glad to have met you along
> > > > the way, sharing a moment on our paths?
> > > >
> > > > You complain about egos, but start dealing with yours. You won't prove
>
> > > > anything this way Bryce, except the opposite. Show respect yourself if
> > > > you want respect.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Gwenn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sophie wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > hello every body Bryce ask me to put this for him, i have been in
> his
> > > > > list for 3 months now, and he isthe only one trader that i know that
> > > > > write book and realy trade, and he is telling his trade in his site
> > > > > for Free, i dont know any one else who do thathe is a brilliant
> > > > > teacher, and a brilliant trader, as i have folow his trade FREE for
> > > > > the last 3 months sophie There are a lot of egos to deal with in
> this
> > > > > business, unfortunately guys like SB never have made it or are rank
> > > > > amateurs. Most of the people I have trained that are successful are
> > > > > either working as technical analysts or as private traders. Of the
> > > > > ones that do trade funds and are successful they rarely admit where
> > > > > they got their increased knowledge of Gann or Elliott timing. Like
> > > > > every facet of leveraged trading we would have a fall out rate of
> 75%
> > > > > who just can't put the information to practical use. I don't let it
> > > > > bother me, if they want to take me on head to head I can reduce them
> > > > > to a "bumbling mess". Anyway as far as books and software sales go I
> > > > > have always had an agent handling that side of my business activity
> > > > > and I do enjoy the money it brings in, the agents couldn't sell it
> if
> > > > > it was not worth the price. And I am prepared to place real time
> > > > > information of trades I am taking - see how many of your real
> traders
> > > > > will do that. Guys like Dennis who trade turtles systems take huge
> > > > > drawdowns to make the money they do, most of the time they are using
> > > > > other peoples money and take up front fees from the trading capital
> to
> > > > > make their living. Lots of people come and go into their funds and
> in
> > > > > general many get burnt even though the funds can produce audited
> > > > > results that look good on the face of it. I know cause I have seen
> it
> > > > > over the years. So tell this guy SB to have a real good look at the
> > > > > business and find out how long he has been in it. My opinion is, he
> is
> > > > > a loser and just needs to try and surround himself with other
> losers,
> > > > > that's what brokers usually do. Bryce
> > > >
> > >
> >