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Hello again Bryce,
Don't be mad. If you were lucky enough to know success from the start, be aware
this is not the usual route in any endeavour, as you may surely know from your
own trials in other activities. Be also aware, that past success is not a
guarantee of future immunity from failure. In fact not knowing of failure makes
you vulnerable to not recognizing the warning telltale signals, and may not be a
positive for anyone seeking to entrust large funds to trade. Be also aware that
doubt is a key part of the learning process. You cannot make things your own by
just accepting them. You have first to doubt to find the arguments that will
convince yourself, so please allow for people to doubt, and just show some
empathy, compassion and tolerance. It will only improve your teaching skills,
and make yourself more accessible to your students. You should read "the
greatest salesman in the world" and its sequel by Ogd Mandino. Very interesting
in that respect.
Lastly you complain about others (ignorant) trashing your work and beliefs.
Don't trap yourself in the plot by doing the same. The best proof is silence and
action. How about posting some of your (constructive) thoughts on this forum
rather than making claims nobody can verify and are only hurting your
credibility? Actually, I hear you have a list. If so please put me on. Promise,
I won't trash..., just listen :-))
Gwenn
Sophie wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bryce Gilmore & Associates <bryceg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Sophie <trade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [RT] GANN/GILMORE {01}
>
> > Sophie,
> > Reply to Gwenn.
> >
> > Gwenn I did not start out as a loser, I have been a winner from day one,
> > that is the point. if you think I am a bastard just go into the pits at
> the
> > CBOT and find out how many pleasantries you get from the guys who work
> > there. Get real and learn. Most of the shit you hear in the rooms you
> > inhabit are designed to rip money out of your pocket. I might be a
> complete
> > anomaly but I do try and help people who continually get it in the ass
> from
> > brokers, urgers and idealists.
> > Bryce.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Sophie <trade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: bryce <bryceg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 9:33 PM
> > Subject: Tr: [RT] GANN/GILMORE {01}
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Gwenael Gautier <ggautier@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: Sophie <trade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Cc: <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 12:31 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [RT] GANN/GILMORE {01}
> > >
> > >
> > > > I don't know you, Bryce, but the way you respond is not making you
> good
> > > > publicity. Bragging is not a trait of consistent winning traders, nor
> is
> > > > trashing those who wonder about you. If you are good, fine, only you
> can
> > > > know, but you could have said the same things without needing to
> > > > diminish others. Any winner starts out at a loser first, you should
> > > > remember your own losing years and how you felt then before making fun
> > > > of people whom you deems are losing, without even knowing. As one day
> > > > these might well beat the shit out of you in performance and what will
> > > > you say then? Sorry to have abused you, or glad to have met you along
> > > > the way, sharing a moment on our paths?
> > > >
> > > > You complain about egos, but start dealing with yours. You won't prove
>
> > > > anything this way Bryce, except the opposite. Show respect yourself if
> > > > you want respect.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Gwenn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sophie wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > hello every body Bryce ask me to put this for him, i have been in
> his
> > > > > list for 3 months now, and he isthe only one trader that i know that
> > > > > write book and realy trade, and he is telling his trade in his site
> > > > > for Free, i dont know any one else who do thathe is a brilliant
> > > > > teacher, and a brilliant trader, as i have folow his trade FREE for
> > > > > the last 3 months sophie There are a lot of egos to deal with in
> this
> > > > > business, unfortunately guys like SB never have made it or are rank
> > > > > amateurs. Most of the people I have trained that are successful are
> > > > > either working as technical analysts or as private traders. Of the
> > > > > ones that do trade funds and are successful they rarely admit where
> > > > > they got their increased knowledge of Gann or Elliott timing. Like
> > > > > every facet of leveraged trading we would have a fall out rate of
> 75%
> > > > > who just can't put the information to practical use. I don't let it
> > > > > bother me, if they want to take me on head to head I can reduce them
> > > > > to a "bumbling mess". Anyway as far as books and software sales go I
> > > > > have always had an agent handling that side of my business activity
> > > > > and I do enjoy the money it brings in, the agents couldn't sell it
> if
> > > > > it was not worth the price. And I am prepared to place real time
> > > > > information of trades I am taking - see how many of your real
> traders
> > > > > will do that. Guys like Dennis who trade turtles systems take huge
> > > > > drawdowns to make the money they do, most of the time they are using
> > > > > other peoples money and take up front fees from the trading capital
> to
> > > > > make their living. Lots of people come and go into their funds and
> in
> > > > > general many get burnt even though the funds can produce audited
> > > > > results that look good on the face of it. I know cause I have seen
> it
> > > > > over the years. So tell this guy SB to have a real good look at the
> > > > > business and find out how long he has been in it. My opinion is, he
> is
> > > > > a loser and just needs to try and surround himself with other
> losers,
> > > > > that's what brokers usually do. Bryce
> > > >
> > >
> >
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