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Re: GEN: Astro-Finance, Realtraders Survey Results


  • To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: GEN: Astro-Finance, Realtraders Survey Results
  • From: "tim \"tim\" long" <t.long8@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:21:16 -0400 (EDT)
  • In-reply-to: <cf028c96.246b526c@xxxxxxx>

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I'd like to say "thank you" to the 2 Norm's, 2 Steve's and Ira(and  any1 I
may have left out along the same ilk - I'm tired and don't want to go back
thru all the e-mails on this subject).  First of all,  I would like to
address the underlying issue as it applies to this Forum, as I understand
it.  The objection to Astrology is that it does not belong in this forum.
What if scientific proof of trading efficacy could be proven?  What then?
Would a probability that a certain instrument would perform in a specified
way, within a specific time frame, for a specific configuration(call it a
system or study if it's easier), over a statistically significant time
period, do the trick?  For the sake of a number of issues, how about
Astronomy - that's considered a science last time I checked.  The real test
would then be -1-does the mathematical basis of Astrology(Astromomy) work
well enough to be considered a valid tool of technical anaylsis/trading?
2-if it does, does the Astrological interpretations derived from -1-, work
as well?  So, in a way, this is a challenge to this forum - can any1 prove
that either case(-1- or -2-), does or does not work?!    That's the first
issue I wanted to address.............................The second issue is
the survey itself - I think it was meant to be fun.  The idea that the forum
chose to request responses be done offline was likely comfortable with
ever1 - I doubt any1 would have a problem with that or object to that kind
of reasonable request.  I did see where the forum bounced some members for
their hostility, which I think is a valid issue in this case too - not to
bounce, but, to advice members about their             hostility. ......
Now; to the fun part for me. ....YOU GOT A DELETE BUTTON.....So if you can't
handle this for whatever reason, please use it!  I don't want any grief. And
my intentions are not anything but to convey information or
opinion,etc.etc...I'm not trying to convert any1 Besides, where else will
you get this info for free?   Here goes -there are 2 primary risk-takers in
the zodiac - the Sagitarious(with his or her own money) and the Scorpio(with
other people's money).  The trick is it is NOT a sun sign issue - it's about
the nature of a person in relation to trading in this case. The 5th house
rules the Stock Market(to keep it simple - you think technical analysis has
variations - you ought to try this).  There are peices of the puzzle to join
together(you won't trade strictly on advance/declines - will you?).  The
2nd,6th and 10th house are the money houses(how you earn a living, the
working conditions, and the career/calling etc.) . Decision-making,
temperment, and why you picked trading -vs- a 9-5 simple job, and what
trading style you must align yourself with, and of course how you handle
fear and greed,etc. gets blended together and badabing, badaboom, here you
are trading.  The Sag trades on optimism. It can be a wreckless gambler as
well as a sage. So if you have a bunch of Sag in you as parts of the puzzle,
you will go for the home run.    The Scorpio nature in terms of trading is
such that it likes to live on the edge, the excitement of the danger. And it
has the all-important killer instinct.  The sun sign needs to manage these
energies or you simply crash and burn.  I  know I skipped a lot, but, l'll
leave the subject saying NLP and Dr Van Tharp seem to be valid trading
related issues in this forum, so why not astrology?.  Isn't it interesting
(yes we know how highly statistically significant it was)  how 7 Sag's
showed up on the list .  Sag's are a lot of fun. Good luck with a home run.
----- Original Message -----
From: nwinski <nwinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: GEN: Astro-Finance, Realtraders Survey Results


>
>
> Timothy Wolfe wrote:
>
> > This is utter nonsense...a lack of tolerance???? Oh puleeeeze !!!!!
> > Then would it be ok to introduce VooDoo practices into a good "Shorting"
> > methodology??
>
> Tim,
>   Have you tried VooDoo in your "Shorting" mthodology? Does it work?  I
wait on
> pins and needles
> for your reply.
>
> Pointedly,
>
> Norman
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > > John,
> > > Sounds like a very closed minded approach. If some people can make
astro
> > work for
> > > trading, why not show a little tolerance. It is the lack of tolerance
and
> > > flexibility that is the root of many of our problems today and
throughout
> > history.
> > >
> > > John Napier wrote:
> > >
> > > > Several days ago the web master asked that all you
> > > > astrologers converse with each other privately through your
> > > > own email.
> > > > THAT IS STILL AN EXCELLENT IDEA.
> > > > I don't want to start a rumble here but why don't we get off
> > > > this CRAP and get back to sharing good trading ideas and
> > > > information that will
> > > > improve our trading techniques. THAT'S WHAT THIS FORUM IS
> > > > ABOUT. Not astrology or sun worshipping or occultic signs.
> > > > Whoever started this thing why don't you give all those
> > > > others who have joined in with their special signs YOUR
> > > > private email or still better, why don't you start your own
> > > > web page just for that stuff.
> > > > I, Like you, don't want to offend anyone..BUT you have
> > > > offended me. So lets call it quits right now while you are
> > > > ahead.
> > > >
> > > > TTrue61470@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 5/12/99 7:46:59 AM Central Daylight Time,
> > chmeyer@xxxxxxxx
> > > > > writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > << I'm no rocket scientist, especially as it relates to quant
skills--
> > > > >  but isn't it silly to consider this a valid sample base; and
size? >>
> > > > >
> > > > > I totally agree. At the risk of getting the administration mad at
me
> > I'd like
> > > > > to point out a few things about astrology.
> > >
> > >
>