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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Linda is using Joe DiNapoli's technique of
displacing moving averages forward e.g. 3 period displayed 3 bars forward ...
same technique upon which I performed testing. The one place that JD's DMA
technique did backtest reasonably well, with some additional requirements not
set forth in JD's material relating to the relative positions of the DMA during
cross-overs (and which I no longer remember in detail), is in identifying a high
proportion of successful "double repo" reversals.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Earl</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From:
</B>Ira <ist@xxxxxx><BR><B>To:
</B>RealTraders Discussion Group <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Tuesday, April 13, 1999 11:03 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: moving
average<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>Displacing them forward just accentuates the
error. Ira.
<P>charles meyer wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE = CITE> <FONT color=#000000><FONT
size=-1>Ira:</FONT></FONT> <FONT size=-1>Aren't we discussing two
different concepts on DMA's? To wit that Hursttalks about shifting
them back 1/2 cycle whereas Earl is referencing theidea of displacing
them forward? Maybe I'm just confused.</FONT> <FONT
size=-1>Chas</FONT>
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face=Arial><FONT size=-1>-----Original
Message-----</FONT></FONT></B> <BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT
size=-1><B>From: </B>Ira <<A
href="mailto:ist@xxxxxx";>ist@xxxxxx</A>></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=-1><B>To: </B>RealTraders Discussion Group
<<A
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<BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1><B>Date: </B>Tuesday, April 13,
1999 10:25 AM</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT
size=-1><B>Subject: </B>Re: moving average</FONT></FONT>
<BR> Hurst's book on time cycles uses displaced moving averages
and proves that they work. He also uses them to project price
movement. That also works. There are certain flaws, but
I will let you find those for yourselves. Ira.
<P>Earl Adamy wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE = CITE> <FONT color=#000000><FONT
size=-1>Don't want to throw cold water on your parade, but have
you developed evidence that displaced moving averages work? Your
mileage may vary, but my own back testing of a variety of
lengths and displacements indicated to me that they provide no
objective contribution. Like you, I've read and used DiNapoli's
techniques and know he uses DMA's, however I have never been
able to find any published material which indicate DMA's provide
a statistically valid trading advantage. Robert Krause does
employ a stair-stepped 3 day DMA of highs and lows for stop and
reversal which (like DiNapoli's DMA's) look good on charts,
however I've never backtested the concept and most of the
available software is unable to produce a stair-stepped value
without extensive custom programming. Personally, I would
suggest that examination of the pattern of the pivots and bars
can provide more useful information than a DMA.</FONT></FONT>
<FONT size=-1>Earl</FONT>
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face=Arial><FONT size=-1>-----Original
Message-----</FONT></FONT></B> <BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT
size=-1><B>From: </B>Linda Swope <<A
href="mailto:lswope@xxxxxxxxxxx";>lswope@xxxxxxxxxxx</A>></FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1><B>To: </B>RealTraders
Discussion Group <<A
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<BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1><B>Date: </B>Monday,
April 12, 1999 9:26 PM</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=-1><B>Subject: </B>Gen: moving
average</FONT></FONT> <BR> Perhaps my thinking is
flawed and I'm counting on you all to tell me if it
is. I'm fond of displaced moving averages. It
makes sense to me that if using the average as an entry
signal for a long position, that one would use an average of
the highs as opposed to the commonly used close. If one is
waiting for a breakout or proof of a trend, then stock price
breaking above the average of highs seems a better
indication than breaking above the average of closes.
Conversely, an average of lows would be used for a short
signal. Comments? Thanks,Linda <A
href="mailto:linda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>linda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>
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John,
If you are using Netscape, which it looks like you are, then you can do the
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Edit menu -> Preferences -> Appearances -> Fonts There are two areas on
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John
John Napier wrote:
> Many of the messages that come through have such small type..about 5 or
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