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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Hi Animal,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>The Free download from <A
href="http://www.equis.com";>www.equis.com</A>. worked fine for me all the time
(ie each 6.52 Upgrade and the patch 6.52a) - I use MetaStock every day and have
noticed no difference bewteen versions they all work fine. But then again
I am on on Win95.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>David Hunt<BR><A
href="http://www.adest.com.au";>http://www.adest.com.au</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From:
</B>Animal <<A
href="mailto:animal@xxxxxxxxx";>animal@xxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B>Realtraders User Group <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>>;
Metastock User Group <<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Saturday, February 27, 1999 10:32 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>MetaStock
v6.52<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Just got a flyer for the "New And
Improved" MS v6.52 for the piddly sum of $59.00.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>The only question I have is, is this the
same upgrade that has been such a hot topic for the past few months.
Or if I pay the $59 will I the get "real" version that actually
works??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Hi Animal,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>The Free download from <A
href="http://www.equis.com";>www.equis.com</A>. worked fine for me all the time
(ie each 6.52 Upgrade and the patch 6.52a) - I use MetaStock every day and have
noticed no difference bewteen versions they all work fine. But then again
I am on on Win95.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>David Hunt<BR><A
href="http://www.adest.com.au";>http://www.adest.com.au</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
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</B>Realtraders User Group <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>>;
Metastock User Group <<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Saturday, February 27, 1999 10:32 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>MetaStock
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Just got a flyer for the "New And
Improved" MS v6.52 for the piddly sum of $59.00.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>The only question I have is, is this the
same upgrade that has been such a hot topic for the past few months.
Or if I pay the $59 will I the get "real" version that actually
works??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Sounds like you have to get the traders
mentality. Every good trader I have ever meet and this includes guys I
have worked with closely like R</FONT><FONT color=#000000 size=2>ay Barros (he
has an average return of 57% pa after fees over 11 years), Russell Sands (yes
Russell can trade I have his results - 28.9% before fees last year) and Tom
Loveday have the following mentality:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>You don't want to stand between them and a pile of their money
(Note I said "THEIR MONEY"). This is a principal that carries
for an amount of $2 or $2million the principle is still the same. They
treat trading as a business and know if they have rules and follow those rules
step by step in a business like fashion</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>that in the long run they will make money.
Russell understands that his method is likely to have losses to out of 3
times. That means he feels bad 8 months out of 12!!! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Ray Barros tells me he has had 9 losing months
in row before making a great come back to return 28% for that year in the last 3
months.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>You know from Van Tharp's work that Winning traders have
Mentally Rehearsed every problem they can find before they have them so they
know what they can do. So reherase computer problems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>They also know that the game is a long run probability and
that in the short run they have to wear pain (ie losses) and that sometimes
their methods won't work (we know the Turtles methods work from the system
testing - it had its worst year last year only a 50% return) they also know that
they have to have a long run positive advantage via their methods. So you
should test your methods over 5 years to see if they work. If you don't have a
positive expectation method you should get one. Trading Psychology will not help
you if what you do has negative expectation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>David Hunt<BR><A
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From:
</B>Gary Kramer <<A
href="mailto:gmkramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>gmkramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B>RealTraders Discussion Group <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Saturday, February 27, 1999 6:00 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Trading
Demons<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><EM><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Help! The trading demons are out
to get me! I am in a terrible rut! Everthing that could go
wrong has. I havent had a winning day in weeks. When I have
gotten into a bad streak, I papertrade, I read Van Tharps stuff, I follow
all of the Psychological crap out there to get my confidence back, then when
I go to place the first trade, following my rules, I get a loser. No
big deal, confidence is still up so I wait for the next setup, take the
trade, and of a course a loser so I dont take the next trade which is the
winner. The next one I take is another loser. Or just when I get
into a trade, my ISP goes down or my computer locks up. This never
happens when I papertrade! Or today, I decided i would trade the mini
SPOO to get my confidence back and PMBe is having problems so I missed 3
trades and had a winner turn into a loser! I have tried 4 different
brokerage firms and obviously that is not the problem. I have been
doing this full time for seven months and am negative big time!
</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=2>What should I do? I unfortunately have
done the incorrect thing and jumped to another system or approach when one
failed, looking for the Holy Grail. I know its not there but I have
this glimmer of hope that it is. My system now is very simple and
relies on "reading" 2 minute candlesticks and looking for reversal
patterns and support and resistance points. I use Stochastics as a
basis to assess divergence. Pretty simple stuff yet I cannot
win.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=2>Please Help!</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT color=#000000 size=2><BR>Gary
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Gary ...this may sound crazy but here goes...
Enjoy it....be into it totally....try very hard to lose on your next 5
trades using the same techniques you use now...then enjoy your
sucess....
Dick
P.S. I new a great system for stocks ...last year the result of it was
not much for my wallet, lots for the broker and lots of work at tax
time. This year I'm trading my new stock system at
Marketplayer.com....I have found that the map is not the territory and
intend to experience the rough edges there first.
---Gary Kramer <gmkramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Help! The trading demons are out to get me! I am in a terrible
rut! Everthing that could go wrong has. I havent had a winning day
in weeks. When I have gotten into a bad streak, I papertrade, I read
Van Tharps stuff, I follow all of the Psychological crap out there to
get my confidence back, then when I go to place the first trade,
following my rules, I get a loser. No big deal, confidence is still
up so I wait for the next setup, take the trade, and of a course a
loser so I dont take the next trade which is the winner. The next one
I take is another loser. Or just when I get into a trade, my ISP goes
down or my computer locks up. This never happens when I papertrade!
Or today, I decided i would trade the mini SPOO to get my confidence
back and PMBe is having problems so I missed 3 trades and had a winner
turn into a loser! I have tried 4 different brokerage firms and
obviously that is not the problem. I have been doing this full time
for seven months and am negative big time!
>
> What should I do? I unfortunately have done the incorrect thing
and jumped to another system or approach when one failed, looking for
the Holy Grail. I know its not there but I have this glimmer of hope
that it is. My system now is very simple and relies on "reading" 2
minute candlesticks and looking for reversal patterns and support and
resistance points. I use Stochastics as a basis to assess divergence.
Pretty simple stuff yet I cannot win.
>
> Please Help!
>
>
>
> Gary Kramer
>
>
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<DIV><EM><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Help! The trading demons are out
to
get me! I am in a terrible rut! Everthing that could go wrong
has. I havent had a winning day in weeks. When I have gotten into a
bad streak, I papertrade, I read Van Tharps stuff, I follow all of the
Psychological crap out there to get my confidence back, then when I go
to place
the first trade, following my rules, I get a loser. No big deal,
confidence is still up so I wait for the next setup, take the trade,
and of a
course a loser so I dont take the next trade which is the winner. The
next
one I take is another loser. Or just when I get into a trade, my ISP
goes
down or my computer locks up. This never happens when I papertrade!
Or today, I decided i would trade the mini SPOO to get my confidence
back and
PMBe is having problems so I missed 3 trades and had a winner turn
into a
loser! I have tried 4 different brokerage firms and obviously that is
not
the problem. I have been doing this full time for seven months and am
negative big time! </FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=2>What should I do? I unfortunately have done
the incorrect thing and jumped to another system or approach when one
failed,
looking for the Holy Grail. I know its not there but I have this
glimmer
of hope that it is. My system now is very simple and relies on
"reading" 2 minute candlesticks and looking for reversal patterns and
support and resistance points. I use Stochastics as a basis to assess
divergence. Pretty simple stuff yet I cannot win.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT size=2>Please Help!</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT color=#000000 size=2><BR>Gary
Kramer<BR></FONT></EM></DIV></BODY></HTML>
==
Big Lucky Dick
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