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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Hi</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>You can try <A
href="http://www.infotecag.com/webtrader">www.infotecag.com/webtrader</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>For 150 $ per month I find this service is very
very good</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Andy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From:
</B>Szilassy <<A
href="mailto:szilassy@xxxxxxx">szilassy@xxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B>RealTraders Discussion Group <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>20 October 1998 18:33<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: realtime internet quote
service<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Streaming quotes are not enough. You
need real-time charting capabilities to be a daytrader (for position trading
only, you don't even need the real-time quotes). There are lots of good
packages out there and they're well worth the premium you pay vs. quotes
only. I use DBC Stockedge ($99 per month), but there are a number of
others which are supposed to be equally good. Many have risk-free
one-month trial periods and there are traders who switch service providers
every month and never have to incur a service fee (far too problematic to
appeal to me - the income you lose while spending time learning the
intricacies of a new system is arguably far more costly than the service
itself). I'm thinking of switching to a point-and-click system like JPR
Capital or MBT, but I have to make sure my now refined approach justifies the
added cost, which is a much bigger jump than that from quotes only to charting
capability. If you want to research the possibilities on your own, take
a look at a magazine like Individual Investor or simply check the Websites,
which follow logically for the most part (<A
href="http://www.mbt.com">www.mbt.com</A>, <A
href="http://www.jprcapital.com">www.jprcapital.com,</A> <A
href="http://www.dbc.com">www.dbc.com</A>, etc.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Good luck.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Paul Szilassy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From:
</B>Ketayun <<A
href="mailto:ketayun@xxxxxxxxxxx">ketayun@xxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B>RealTraders Discussion Group <<A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx">realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Tuesday, October 20, 1998 10:02 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>realtime internet
quote service<BR><BR></DIV>
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<P>I currently use North American Quotes for realtime streaming quotes and
am somewhat satisfied. However their audio alerts do not,:-)), and there are
some other bugs.
<P>Any suggestions for a similar service, which also has multiple TOS and
charts available on a single screen?
<P>Thanks,
<P>Ketayun </P></BLOCKQUOTE>
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From: Walt Downs <knight@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: VIX REVs
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A quick addition to the comments below. for further
reading and interesting ideas on the VIX and SP500,
see " Trading Secrets of the Inner Circle" by
Andrew Goodwin.
walt Downs
CIS Trading
dbtg wrote:
>
> FWIW, the 15-day & 5-day VIX reversal should kick in
> if , IF, the closing VIX today is greater than 30.80 (VIX OHLC so far
> today is 30.80/30.93/29.14/30.00).
> dave
> ---
> The rules from Chapter 2 of "Connors on Advanced Trading Strategies":
>
> ". . . this strategy adds the use of the RSI of the VIX itself to
> provide insight into another way to time your entries more precisely."
>
> Connors VIX Reversal 2 (from chapter 2)
>
> ". . before looking at this strategy, let's look at the underlying
> principles of the VIX Volatility Index).
>
> The VIX is the market consensus estimate of future volatility, based on
> the "at-the-money" quotes of the OEX. It is published by the Chicago
> Board Options Exchange.
> The VIX can be found on all quote systems: end-of-day and intra-day.
> "Common Wall Street wisdom" states that when the VIX is high, the market
> is likely to rise and when the VIX is low, the market is likely to drop.
> As far as I am aware, until my work revealed here, no one could show
> where was the best high/low level to enter, and certainly no one has
> shown it combined with an intraday reversal. This entry uses an even
> more efficient way to measure overbought/oversold levels.
>
> Here are the rules:
>
> 1. Take a 5-period RSI of the closing VIX
>
> 2. When the 5-period RSI gets to 70 or above, it signifies the VIX is
> overbought and the market is oversold
>
> 3. When an RSI reading above 70 is followed by a downtick in RSI, buy
> the market that day on the close.
>
> Short entry:
>
> When the 5-period RSI of the VIX gets to 30 or below, it signifies that
> the VIX is oversold and the market is overbought. When an RSI reading
> below 30 is followed by an uptick in its RSI, sell the market that day
> on the close.
>
> 4. Exit seven trading days later (or use some type of trailing stop
> exit).
> 5. A protective stop helps avoid potentially large drawdowns.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: THE DOCTOR <droex@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Sunday, August 16, 1998 1:34 AM
> Subject: re: MKT VIX DATA
>
> >Just a quick refresher for those who posted the question as to how VIX
> >is calculated.
> >
> >Vix is drawn from 8 options. The front month puts and calls bracketing
> >the current cash value of the OEX and the same second month options.
> >The front month is dropped on Monday of expiration week and the "third"
> >and second month then make up the VIX.
> >
> >They are weighed so as to achieve an exactly ATM..exactly 30 day value.
> >
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