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<DIV><FONT size=2>Perhaps I'm missing something, it would appear that you've 
already determined the desired result to be stable at 11-14% and could simply 
plug a random constant in that range into your formula. As a trader, there is no 
doubt in my mind that volatility during past 6 weeks has increased significantly 
over historical levels, thus it does not appear reasonable that volatility is 
stable. Should I look for proof, I need look no further than 14 day average true 
range, 20 day StdDev, or the CBOE VIX index. Perhaps you are looking for 
something other than volatility.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Earl</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
    </B>peter &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:derivatives@xxxxxxxxxxx";>derivatives@xxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
    </B>RealTraders Discussion Group &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
    </B>Sunday, September 20, 1998 2:51 AM<BR><B>Subject: 
    </B>HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>My fellow RT'ers</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I would like your thoughts on a matter. 
    </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I&nbsp; have been&nbsp; working an analysis 
    study (statistical) on the S&amp;P cash market, &amp; require a volatility 
    figure for the market. I know the appropriate answer I seek due to 
    interpolating the analysis &amp; working backwards in a sense.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>This volatility figure is around 11-14% , is 
    calculated daily, &amp; is stable around the 11-14% range every day. In fact 
    it is stable at around 11-14% even on a weekly , monthly &amp; yearly basis. 
    ie weekly volatility figure is 11-14% itself etc</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>&nbsp;The problem is&nbsp; that I dont know 
    the calculation of it. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I have tried ATM implied volatility&nbsp; of 
    S&amp;P options,variance, SD on cash &amp; confidence intervals, etc &amp; 
    some other obscure ones, but they are all to high so they are not the basis 
    of the calaulation that I am looking for..</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Basically, do you know of any volatilty 
    calculation which fits the above parameters which I have mentioned. It may 
    not even be of a statistical nature but could also be&nbsp; TA based. 
    </FONT></DIV></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>The volatility figure&nbsp; also is between 
    11-14% on other markets on a daily basis such as the hangseng, &amp; 
    xau.&nbsp; It also is at that level when&nbsp; I consider weekly, monthly 
    &amp; yearly&nbsp; data. So, although the figure changes daily, it is a 
    stable figure of around 11-14% on multiple markets &amp; on multiple time 
    frames.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>In essence the volatility figure serves as an adjustment 
    factor to to enable the calculation of the markets true data 
    structure.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>ANY suggestions or advive would be most 
    appreciated</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Peter 
Karaguleski</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Subject: ADVANCE GET and oscillator divergences
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#1 I would appreciate feedback on the ADVANCE GET software, specifically
your experiences re the use of the "ellipse," "MOB" and "PTI" as part of
a trade-entry and trade-exit methodology.   If already hashed out in a
previous thread, please respond to my address. 

#2  Is anyone regularly using momentum divergence (any time period) in
5-17, 5-35 or 10-70 MACDs as setup for entry/exit?    John