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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT color=#000000>I would 
appreciate information on the availability of <STRONG>Volatility Adjusted 
</STRONG><STRONG>&quot;Pivot&quot; type analysis </STRONG>through the internet, 
<STRONG>especially </STRONG>in regards to its calculation. Any help would be 
greatly appreciated.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT 
color=#000000>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Regards 
Peter</FONT></FONT></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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From: "BrentinUtahsDixie" <brente@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Re: no trading for 16 year olds?
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It wasn't really you that was trading was it, because if it were, you would
have made the decision alone, unfortunately it was your money, but did you
learn anything from the experience? If so, you should write a thank you
note to whomever she is. 

For fun lets say that a child was day trading the SP500 and after he traded
there was a 1000 point move against him and he and his guardians lost
everything, home, cars everything of value. 

Do you still think that children should trade? If so I don't think that
society would agree with you.

Brent

> I agree with you on all but the trading. The child can not trade with out
> parental consent and they are on the hook for all loses.
> 
> When I was 14 I made money with a paper route. I wanted to invest in a
> cyclical stock that was low in the summer and high in the winter. She
wanted
> to invest it in a gold mine. ....To make a sad story short. I felt ripped
off
> when I lost $$ and my investment would have made $$.
> 
> Mitch
>  
> 
> 
> owner-realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > I support regulations that prohibit minors from gambling, drinking,
being
> 
> > involved in crime etc. If there are no laws prohibiting minors from
trading
> 
> > I think that there should be. Some people mature more quickly then
others,
> 
> > but I can't believe that anyone his age is prepared for the realities
of
> 
> > trading.
> 
> > 
> 
> > I wont argue with this boy. I will ignore him, and hope that his
parents
> 
> > can control and discipline him. If he is pursuing an education and
paper
> 
> > trading to learn I think that's all right. He may be boy wonder but he
is
> 
> > still a child and it's a shame that many children are not being allowed
to
> 
> > be children anymore.
> 
> > 
> 
> > Brent
> 
> > 
> 
> > ----------
> 
> > > From: Darrin Vernier <gphx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > > To: RealTraders Discussion Group <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > > Subject: Re: FW: Hm... Further confirmation on S&P's break out...
> 
> > > Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 12:50 PM
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > Realtraders,
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > I've personally known Mr. Hao Min Jian for two years. He is indeed a
15 
> 
> > > year old high school student. In that time, I've known him to be a 
> 
> > > competent, indeed excellent trader, and far better than most adults I

> 
> > > have encountered. My only regret is his addition of the disclaimer "I
am 
> 
> > > only a high school student". This "boy" can take the punches and dish

> 
> > > them out. So please don't hesitate to argue with him on an equal
basis, 
> 
> > > it only seems to give him further inspiration. : )
> 
> > > 
> 
> > >                                          Darrin Vernier
> 
> > >                                          GoldenPhoenix
> 
> > >                                          (Birdie)
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > P.S. Makes me sigh to think where I might be if I had both a realtime

> 
> > > feed and a bit of sense at age 15...
> 
> > >  
> 
> > > >Subject: FW: Hm... Further confirmation on S&P's break out...
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >Mr. (Ms.?) Jian,
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >One message you sent yesterday said:
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >DIS: Well well, I posted what I thought but doesn't mean I will be
> 
> > > >responsible for anything.  After all, I don't even trade futures!
> 
> > > >And I am a highschool student!
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >But your second message yesterday (below) indicates that you at
least 
> 
> > > trade
> 
> > > >stocks.  Perhaps I am overly skeptical, but something doesn't add
up.
> 
> > > >Perhaps the adults here would like to comment on this.
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >Ross Kovacs
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >> ----------
> 
> > > >> From: 	Hao-Min Jian[SMTP:hjian@xxxxxxxx]
> 
> > > >> Sent: 	Tuesday, August 04, 1998 9:52 AM
> 
> > > >> To: 	RealTraders Discussion Group; omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> > > >> Subject: 	Hm... Further confirmation on S&P's break out...
> 
> > > >> 
> 
> > > >> The uptick/downtick broke downside from the band it has been in
for 
> 
> > > the
> 
> > > >> last
> 
> > > >> 2.5 weeks.  Happy days for the shorters.... (why aren't my stock 
> 
> > > shorts
> 
> > > >> going down accordingly?)
> 
> > > >> 
> 
> > > >> 
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > ______________________________________________________
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mitch Ryder
> Ynos@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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