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Alan,
Here is a quote from the Babson.EDU site on Stock markets and Roger Babson.
http://www.babson.edu/archives/rwbbio.html

Having amassed a sizable fortune, Roger Babson was not content to
                                join the idle rich. Instead he shared his
business knowledge to
                                protect investors, and invested his own
wealth in industries and
                                endeavors that would benefit humanity.
After witnessing a dramatic
                                stock market crash and financial panic in
1907, Roger Babson
                                expanded his investment practice to include
counseling on what to
                                buy and sell as well as when it was wise to
purchase or unload
                                stocks. Working with M.I.T. Professor of
Engineering George F.
                                Swain, Roger Babson applied Isaac Newton's
theory of "actions and
                                reactions" to economics, originating the
Babsonchart of economic
                                indicators, which assessed current and
predicted future business
                                conditions. Although the Babsonchart has
since proved to be an
                                imperfect tool, through it Roger Babson
earned the distinction of
                                being the first financial forecaster to
predict the stock-market crash of
                                October, 1929, and the Great Depression
that followed. 

If Roger got his theory from Newton where did Newton Get it from?


Newtons theory came from the emerald tablet.

http://www.mension.com/hermes3.htm



                              The Emerald Tablet 
                                         Isaac Newton 

   1.Tis true without lying, certain & most true. 
   2.That wch is below is like that wch is above & that wch is above is
like yt wch is below to do ye miracles of one only
     thing. 
   3.And as all things have been & arose from one by ye mediation of one:
so all things have their birth from this one thing by
     adaptation. 
   4.The Sun is its father, the moon its mother, the wind hath carried it
in its belly, the earth its nourse. 
   5.The father of all perfection in ye whole world is here. 
   6.Its force or power is entire if it be converted into earth. 
   7.Seperate thou ye earth from ye fire, ye subtile from the gross sweetly
wth great indoustry. 
   8.It ascends from ye earth to ye heaven & again it desends to ye earth
and receives ye force of things superior & inferior. 
   9.By this means you shall have ye glory of ye whole world & thereby all
obscurity shall fly from you. 10) Its force is above
     all force. ffor it vanquishes every subtile thing & penetrates every
solid thing. 
  10.So was ye world created. 
  11.From this are & do come admirable adaptaions whereof ye means (Or
process) is here in this. 
  12.Hence I am called Hermes Trismegist, having the three parts of ye
philosophy of ye whole world. 
  13.That wch I have said of ye operation of ye Sun is accomplished & ended. 



Where did the Emerald tablet Come from?
http://marlowe.wimsey.com/~rshand/streams/scripts/tablet.html
The Emerald Tablet

"The Tablet probably first appeared in the West in editions of the
pseudo-Aristotelian Secretum Secretorum which was actually
a translation of the Kitab Sirr al-Asar, a book of advice to kings which
was translated into Latin by Johannes Hispalensis c.
1140 and by Philip of Tripoli c.1243. Other translations of the Tablet may
have been made during the same period by Plato of
Tivoli and Hugh of Santalla, perhaps from different sources. 
"The date of the Kitab Sirr al-Asar is uncertain, though c.800 has been
suggested and it is not clear when the tablet became
part of this work. Holmyard was the first to find another early Arabic
version (Ruska found a 12th century recension claiming to
have been dictated by Sergius of Nablus) in the Kitab Ustuqus al-Uss
al-Thani (Second Book of the Elements of
Foundation) attributed to Jabir." 
     - Jon Marshall, "The Emerald Tablet of Hermes -History of the Tablet" 

     0) "Balinas mentions the engraving on the table in the hand of Hermes,
which says: 
     1) Truth! Certainty! That in which there is no doubt! 
     2) That which is above is from that which is below, and that which is
below is from that which is above, working
     the miracles of one. 
     3) As all things were from one. 
     4) Its father is the Sun and its mother the Moon. 
     5) The Earth carried it in her belly, and the Wind nourished it in her
belly, 
     7) as Earth which shall become Fire. 
          7a) Feed the Earth from that which is subtle, with the greatest
power. 
     8) It ascends from the earth to the heaven and becomes ruler over that
which is above and that which is below. 
     14) And I have already explained the meaning of the whole of this in
two of these books of mine." 
          - From Jabir ibn Hayyan [Holmyard 1923]

"Shortly after Ruska found another version appended to the Kitab Sirr
al-Khaliqa wa San`at al-Tabi'a (Book of the Secret
of Creation and the Art of Nature), which is also known as the Kitab
Balaniyus al-Hakim fi'l-'Ilal (Book of Balinas the
Wise on the Causes). It has been proposed that this book was written may
have been written as early as 650, and was
definitely finished by the Caliphate of al-Ma'mun (813-33)." 
     - Jon Marshall, "The Emerald Tablet of Hermes -History of the Tablet" 

     "0) Here is that which the priest Sagijus of Nabulus has dictated
concerning the entrance of Balinas into the hidden
     chamber... After my entrance into the chamber, where the talisman was
set up, I came up to an old man sitting on
     a golden throne, who was holding an emerald table in one hand. And
behold the following - in Syriac, the
     primordial language- was written thereon: 
     1) Here (is) a true explanation, concerning which there can be no doubt. 
     2) It attests: The above from the below, and the below from the above
-the work of the miracle of the One. 
     3) And things have been from this primal substance through a single
act. How wonderful is this work! It is the
     main (principle) of the world and is its maintainer. 
     4) Its father is the sun and its mother the moon; the 
     5) wind has borne it in its body, and the earth has nourished it. 
     6) the father of talisman and the protector of miracles 
          6a) whose powers are perfect, and whose lights are confirmed (?), 
     7) a fire that becomes earth. 
          7a) Separate the earth from the fire, so you will attain the
subtle as more inherent than the gross, with care
     and sagacity. 
     8) It rises from earth to heaven, so as to draw the lights of the
heights to itself, and descends to the earth; thus
     within it are the forces of the above and the below; 
     9) because the light of lights within it, thus does the darkness flee
before it. 
     10) The force of forces, which overcomes every subtle thing and
penetrates into everything gross. 
     11) The structure of the microcosm is in accordance with the structure
of the macrocosm. 
     12) And accordingly proceed the knowledgeable. 
     13) And to this aspired Hermes, who was threefold graced with wisdom. 
     14) And this is his last book, which he concealed in the chamber." 
          - Another Arabic Version (from the German of Ruska) [Anon 1985]

"Scholars have seen similarities between this book and the Syriac Book of
Treasures written by Job of Odessa (9th century)
and more interestingly the Greek writings of the bishop Nemesius of Emesa
in Syria from the mid fourth century. However
though this suggests a possible Syriac source, none of these writings
contain the tablet." 
     - Jon Marshall, "The Emerald Tablet of Hermes -History of the Tablet" 



The Emerald Tablet came from Hermes. Who was Hermes?
http://home.fireplug.net/~rshand/streams/scripts/hermes.html
Hermes Trismegistus

                               The Archaic Underground Tradition

(1) Ancient Egyptian Tradition 

"In the ancient city of Annu (later called On in the Bible and Heliopolis
by the Greeks) there was a great sacred pillar, itself
named Annu - possibly before the city. This, we believe, was the great
pillar of Lower Egypt and its counterpart in Upper
Egypt at the time of unification was in the city of Nekheb. Later the city
of Thebes, known then as 'Waset', had the title 'Iwnu
Shema', which meant 'the Southern Pillar'." 
"The twin pillars of the Two Lands became the Pillars of Hermes and the
attributes of the ancient Egyptian moon god Thoth
became absorbed into Hermes...It was said that this god [Thoth] possessed
all secret knowledge on 36,535 scrolls that were
hidden under the heavenly vault (the sky) which could only be found by the
worthy, who would use such knowledge for the
benefit of mankind." 
     - Christopher Knight & Robert Lomas, The Hiram Key: Pharaohs,
Freemasons and the Discovery of the Secret
Scrolls of Jesus 

The tradition of a secret doctrine of Thoth appears to be well established
in Egypt: 
1.) According to a papyrus dating to Dynasty 12 of the Old Kingdom: 

     "Then [His Majesty] King Khufu, the vindicated, said: Now as for the
rumor that you know the shrines of the
     secret chambers of the enclosure of [Thoth]? Dedi said: By your favor,
I do not know their shrines, Sovereign, my
     lord, but I do know the place where they are. His Majesty said: Where
are they? And Dedi said: There is a
     passage of flint in a chamber called the Inventory in Heliopolis in
that passage." 
          - "A Marvel in the Time of King Khufu Himself"

2.) A chapter in the Egyptian Book of the Dead, according to its rubric, is
said to have been found at: 

     "Shmun [Hermopolis] under the feet of the majesty of this sublime god
[Thoth] upon a slab of upper Egyptian
     granite in the script of the god himself in the tomb of...Mycerinus,
by Prince Hor-dedef. He found the spell when
     he was engaged in inspecting the temples." 
          - The Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Divine authorship elevates religious literature from present day
existence; similarly, the accounts about the discovery of such
works ascribe them to a more or less distant past. This exemplifies the
tendency to emphasize the antiquity of sacred writings,
which is particularly evident in the retention of ancient linguistic forms
or the deliberate choice of archaistic expressions.
Egyptians could also adopt the customs of bygone ages in their mode of
writing." 
"There is a particle of truth in the statement of Clement of Alexandria
that the Egyptians had forty-two sacred writings by
Hermes (Thoth), in so far as these texts, which include geographical and
medical works among others, constitute the entire
range of material available for the education of priests. The reference to
Thoth's authorship...is based on ancient tradition; the
figure forty-two probably stems from the number of Egyptian nomes, and thus
conveys the notion of completeness." 
     - Siegfried Morenz, Egyptian Religion 

Regarding the "Pillars of Hermes" of "Seth" and of "Solomon" 
"In the 9th chapter of the [Egyptian] Ritual of the Dead they are referred
to as the 'Pillars of Shu', the 'Pillars of the Gods of
the Dawning Light', and also as 'the North and Southern Columns of the Gate
of the Hall of Truth'. In the 125th chapter, they
are represented by the sacred gateway, the door to which the aspirant is
brought when he has completed the negative
confession. The archaic pictures on the one Pillar are painted in black
upon a white ground, and those on the other in white
upon a black ground, in order to express the interchange and reconciliation
of opposing forces and the eternal balance of light
and darkness which give force to visible nature....The archaic
illustrations are taken from vignettes of the 17th and 125th
chapter of the Ritual of the Dead, the Egyptian Book of the 'Per-em-Hru' or
the 'Book of Coming Forth into the Day', the
oldest book in the world as yet discovered." 
"...The general design of the White Pillar is a pictorial synthesis of the
gradual freeing of the soul from the body, left to be
mummied and its union with Osiris, Lord and Judge of the Dead and of the
resurrection, the sun in his rising....The Black Pillar
symbolizes the pathway of darkness, the Negative Confession, as the White
Pillar represents the Hymn to the Rising Sun, the
Pathway of Light, and the Positive Confession." 
     - G. H. Frater, "The Core of the Tradition" 
     The Complete Golden Dawn System of Magic 



(2) Greek Accounts 

"Explaining the Egyptian pantheon of twelve gods to his countrymen, the
Greek historian Herodotus also wrote of an 'Immortal
whom the Egyptians venerated as "Hercules".' He traced the origins of the
worship of this Immortal to Phoenicia, 'hearing that
there was a temple of Hercules at that place, very highly venerated'. In
the temple he saw two pillars. 'One was of pure gold;
the other was as of emerald, shining with great brilliancy at night." 
     - Zecharia Sitchin, The Stairway to Heaven 

"Plato's Timaeus and Critias state that about 560 BC in the temple of Neith
at Sais there were secret halls containing historical
records which had been kept for more the 9,000 years. Proclus gives the
name of the high priest with whom Plato spoke in
Sais - Pateneit. It is probably from him that the Greek philosopher learned
about the oldest archives of Egypt. Another
interesting fact to notice is that the high priest of Egypt Psonchis,
teacher of Pythagoras, also mentioned sacred registers which
even speak of a collision of the Earth with a giant asteroid in a remote
past." 
     - Andrew Tomas, On the Shores of Endless Worlds 

"Greek philosophy and Egyptian lore really came together at the time of the
Lagides, who gradually made Alexandria the
intellectual, scientific, philosophic and religious center of the
Hellenistic world....Manetho [his hieroglyphic name meant 'Gift of
Thoth'], the Egyptian priest of Heliopolis, was also famous for translating
the mysteries into Greek. He lived during the final
years of the fourth and first half of the third centuries B.C. in the reign
of the last two Ptolemies." 
     - Murray Hope, Practical Egyptian Magic 

"Manetho extracted his history from certain pillars which he discovered in
Egypt, whereon inscriptions had been made by
Thoth, or the first Mercury [or Hermes], in the sacred letters and dialect;
but which were after the flood translated from that
dialect into the Greek tongue, and laid up in the private recesses the
Egyptian Temples. These pillars were found in
subterranean caverns, near Thebes and beyond the Nile, not far from the
sounding statue of Memnon, in a place called
Syringes; which are described to be certain winding apartments underground;
made, it is said, by those who were skilled in
ancient rites; who, foreseeing the coming of the Deluge, and fearing lest
the memory of their ceremonies be obliterated, built and
contrived vaults, dug with vast labor, in several places." 
     - General Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma 

Hermes Trismegistus "invented many things necessary for the uses of life,
and gave them suitable names; he taught men how to
write down their thoughts and arrange their speech; he instituted the
ceremonies to be observed in the worship of each of the
Gods; he observed the course of the stars; he invented music, the different
bodily exercises, arithmetic, medicine, the art of
working in metals, the lyre with three strings; he regulated the three
tones of the voice, the sharp, taken from autumn, the grave
from winter, and the middle from spring, there being then but three
seasons. It was he who taught the Greeks the mode of
interpreting terms and things, when they gave him the name of [Hermes],
which signifies Interpreter. 
"In Egypt he instituted hieroglyphics: he selected a certain number of
persons whom he judged fitted to be the depositories of
his secrets, of such only as were capable at attaining the throne and the
first offices in the Mysteries, he united them in a body,
created them Priests of the Living God, instructed them in the sciences and
arts, and explained to them the symbols by which
they were veiled." 
     - General Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma 

"...The so-called Hermetic literature...is a series of papyri describing
various induction procedures...In one of them, there is a
dialogue called the Asclepius (after the Greek god of healing) that
describes the art of imprisoning the souls of demons or of
angel in statues with the help of herbs, gems and odors, such that the
statue could speak and prophesy. In other papyri, there
are still other recipes for constructing such images and animating them,
such as when images are to be hollow so as to enclose a
magic name inscribed on gold leaf." 
     - Julian Jaynes, The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the
Bicameral Mind 

"The Vision is the most famous of all the Hermetic fragments, and contains
an exposition of Hermetic cosmogony and the
secret sciences of the Egyptians regarding the culture and unfoldment of
the human soul. For some time it was erroneously
called 'The Genesis of Enoch', but that mistake has now been rectified." 
     - Manly P. Hall, Masonic, Hermetic, Quabbalistic & Rosicrucian
Symbolical Philosophy 

"His importance in magic is due to the so-called 'Emerald Tablet' which
succinctly sets out the 'as above, so below' principle on
which most magical theory is based." 
     - David Conway, Ritual Magic 

"The exact origins of the celebrated 'Emerald Tablet' are lost, but it is
certainly not nearly as old as it is supposed to be. The
content of the 'Emerald Tablet' can be traced back, with a fair degree of
certainty, to Moslem alchemists in Syria in about the
tenth or eleventh centuries." 
     - Daniel Cohen, Masters of the Occult 

"While Hermes still walked the earth with men, he entrusted to his chosen
successors the sacred Book of Thoth. This work
contained the secret processes by which the regeneration of humanity was to
be accomplished and also served as the key to is
other writings. Nothing definite is known concerning the contents of the
Book of Thoth other than that its pages were covered
with strange hieroglyphic figures and symbols, which gave to those
acquainted with their use unlimited power over the spirits of
the air and the subterranean divinities. When certain areas of the brain
are stimulated by the secret processes of the Mysteries,
the consciousness of man is extended and he is permitted to behold the
Immortals and enter into the presence of the superior
gods. The Book of Thoth described the method whereby this stimulation was
accomplished. In truth, therefore, it was the 'Key
to Immortality'. 

According to legend, the Book of Thoth was kept in a golden box in the
inner sanctuary of the temple. There was but one key
and this was in the possession of the 'Master of the Mysteries', the
highest initiate of the Hermetic Arcanum. He alone knew
what was written in the secret book. The Book of Thoth was lost to the
ancient world with the decay of the Mysteries, but its
faithful initiates carried it sealed in the sacred casket into another
land. The book is still in existence and continues to lead the
disciples of this age into the presence of the Immortals. No other
information can be given to the world concerning it now, but
the apostolic succession from the first hierophant initiated by Hermes
himself remains unbroken to this day, and those who are
peculiarly fitted to serve the Immortals may discover this priceless
document if they will search sincerely and tirelessly for it." 
"It has been asserted that the Book of Thoth is, in reality, the mysterious
Tarot of the Bohemians - a strange emblematic book
of seventy-eight leaves which has been in possession of the gypsies since
the time then they were driven from their ancient
temple, the Serapeum." 
     - Manly P. Hall, Masonic, Hermetic, Quabbalistic & Rosicrucian
Symbolical Philosophy 



                                    The Philosphy of Hermes

"According to the Neoplatonic view the material world is arranged as a
'golden chain', which reaches from the topmost being
and from the one which is beyond even existence, down to the last shimmer
of being in matter, joining plane with plane in their
essence. Ascending the chain the beings climb back to the summit of all
being." 
     - Holger Kersten & Elmar R. Gruber, The Jesus Conspiracy - The Turin
Shroud & The Truth About the Resurrection
(1992) 

"Written by a Neoplatonist philosopher of about the fifth century, "the
Celestial Hierarchies describes three worlds of which
ours is the lowest. This is the elemental world of nature and is subject to
influences from above. Above this 'sublunary' world, is
what is called the 'celestial' world wherein are found the stars and their
'spirits' or 'guardians' (analogous to the Gnostic
archons). Even higher is the sphere of the 'supercelestial' world, the
world of nous, the 'intellectual' or 'intelligible' world of
angelic spirits, of superior knowledge of reality because closer to the
One, the divine source of creation, who is beyond the
three worlds. Hand in hand with this concept of worlds, of which ours is
the lowest projection, goes it essential counterpart; the
concept of microcosm.... Going deeper and deeper into the mind of Man,
illuminated by nous, man could travel farther and
farther into the universe - and back again." 
     - Tobias Churton, The Gnostics 

"Hermes, while wandering in a rocky and desolate place, gave himself over
to meditation and prayer. Following the secret
instructions of the Temple, he gradually freed his higher consciousness
from the bondage of his bodily senses; and, thus release,
his divine nature revealed to him the mysteries of the transcendental
spheres. He beheld a figure, terrible and awe-inspiring. It
was the Great Dragon, with wings stretching across the sky and light
streaming in all directions from its body. (The Mysteries
taught that the Universal Life was personified as a dragon.) The Great
Dragon called Hermes by name, and asked him why he
thus meditated upon the World Mystery. Terrified by the spectacle, Hermes
prostrated himself before the Dragon, beseeching
it to reveal its identity. The great creature answered that it was
Poimandres, the Mind of the Universe, the Creative
Intelligence, and the Absolute Emperor of all. [Edouard Schure, The
Mysteries of Egypt, identities Poimandres as the god
Osiris.] Hermes then besought Poimandres to disclose the nature of the
universe and the constitution of the gods. The dragon
acquiesced, bidding Trismegistus hold its image in his mind. 
"Immediately the form of Poimandres changed. Where it had stood there was a
glorious and pulsating Radiance. This Light was
the spiritual nature of the Great Dragon itself. Hermes was 'raised' into
the midst of this Divine Effulgence and the universe of
material things faded from his consciousness. Presently a great darkness
descended and, expanding, swallowed up the Light.
Everything was troubled. about Hermes swirled a mysterious watery substance
which gave forth a smokelike vapor. The air
was filled with inarticulate moanings and sighings which seemed to come
from the Light swallowed up in the darkness. His mind
told Hermes that the Light was the form of the spiritual universe and that
the swirling darkness which had engulfed it
represented material substance. 
"Then out of the imprisoned Light a mysterious and Holy Word came forth and
took its stand upon the smoking waters. This
Word - the Voice of the Light - rose out of the darkness as a great pillar,
and the fire and the air followed after it, but the earth
and the water remained unmoved below. Thus the waters of Light were divided
from the waters of darkness, and from the
waters of Light were formed the worlds above and from the waters of
darkness were formed the worlds below. The earth and
the water next mingle, becoming inseparable, and the Spiritual Word which
is called Reason moved upon their surface, causing
endless turmoil." 

"Then again was heard the voice of Poimandres, but His form was not
revealed: 'I Thy God am the Light and the Mind which
were before substance was divided from spirit and darkness from Light. And
the Word which appeared as a pillar of flame out
of the darkness is the Son of God, born of the mystery of the Mind. the
name of that Word is Reason. Reason is the offspring
of Thought [Thoth] and Reason shall divide the Light from the darkness and
establish truth in the midst of the waters'." 
     - Manly P. Hall, Masonic, Hermetic, Quabbalistic & Rosicrucian
Symbolical Philosophy 

[Compare with the tradition behind the pillar of fire that the Isrealites
followed in the wilderness.] 

     "Of the immortal man it should be said that He is hermaphrodite, or
male and female, and eternally watchful. He
     neither slumbers nor sleeps, and is governed by a Father also both
male and female, and ever watchful. Such is
     the mystery kept hidden to this day, for Nature, being mingled in
marriage with the Sky Man, brought forth a
     wonder most wonderful - seven men, all bisexual, male and female, and
upright of stature, each one exemplifying
     the natures of the Seven governors [spirits of the Planets]. These, O
Hermes, are the seven races, species, and
     wheels." 
     "Then all living creatures, including man, which had been
hermaphroditical, were separated, the males being set
     apart by themselves and the females likewise, according to the
dictates of Reason.' 
     "Then God spoke to the Holy Word within the soul of all things,
saying: 'Increase in increasing and multiply in
     multitudes, all you, my creatures and workmanships. Let him that is
endued with Mind know himself to be
     immortal and that the cause of death is the love of the body; and let
him learn all things that are, for he who has
     recognized himself enters into the state of Good.'" 
          - Poimadres (or The Vision of Hermes)

"Man, according to Hermes, had taken on a mortal body merely to commune
with nature, but at heart remained a spirit, a
divine, creative, and immortal essence. Living beings did not die, but,
being composite, dissolved the bond in order to reunite
and re-form. Nothing dies; it only dissolves and transforms. The gnosis
consisted in re-becoming a god." 
     - Peter Tompkins, The Magic of Obelisks 

     "We suffer a perpetual transmutation, whereby we receive a perpetual
flow of fresh atoms, while those that we
     have received are leaving us." 
          - Giordano Bruno

"Indeed, for antiquity in general, the divination of man was not an
extravagant dream. 'Know, then, that you are a God,' Cicero
wrote. And in a Hermetic text we read: 'I know thee, Hermes, and thou
knowest me: I am thou and thou art I.' Similar
expressions are found in Christian writings. As Clement of Alexandria says,
the true (Christian) Gnostic 'has already become
God.' And for Lactantlius, the chaste man will end by becoming consimilis
Deo, 'identical in all respects with God.'" 
     - Mircea Eliade, Rites and Symbols of Initiation 

     "...You saw the spirit, you became spirit. You saw Christ, you became
Christ. You saw the father, you shall
     become Father....you see yourself, and what you see you shall [become]." 
     "Whoever achieves gnosis becomes "no longer Christian but a Christ." 
          - Gospel of Philip 

     "...I was very disturbed, and I turned to myself...Having seen the
light that surrounded me and the good that was
     within me, I became divine." 
          - Allogenes



                             The Neoplatonic Origins of the Writings

"...A Greek manuscript in seventeen books brought from Macedonia to Cosimo
de' Medici...was said to contain the secret
wisdom of Thoth, the Egyptian sage whom the Greeks called Hermes
Trismegistus, or the Thrice Great Hermes." 
     - Peter Tompkins, The Magic of Obelisks 

"A fusion of Greek philosophy and the ancient religion of Egypt, the
beliefs of Hermeticism were contained in a body of texts
known as the Corpus Hermeticum." 
"The Corpus Hermeticum takes the form of dialogues between Trismegistus,
Thoth, and several other Egyptian deities,
including Isis. Scholars point out that little in the text is truly
original. In fact, much of the Hermetic world view is grounded in the
philosophy of Plato. Hermetics saw the universe in terms of light and dark,
good and evil, spirit and matter. Like their Gnostic
contemporaries, practitioners preached a mind-body dualism and salvation
through the possession of true and divine
knowledge." 
     - Ancient Wisdom and the Secret Sects 

"...In 1614 the brilliant scholar of Greek, Isaac Casaubon had shown in his
de rebus sacris et ecclesiaticis exercitiones XVI
that the Corpus Hermeticum could not possibly have been written by an
ancient Egyptian sage - be he Hermes Trismegistus or
anyone else. The Greek style was of the period of Plotinus (second and
third century) and, furthermore, it had clearly escaped
the attention of former commentators that neither Plato nor Moses nor
Aristotle nor indeed any pre-Christian writer had ever
made reference to this Hermes Trismegistus." 
     - Tobias Churton, The Gnostics 

"It is this very book [the Book of Moses/] which Hermes plagiarized when he
named the seven perfumes of sacrifice in his
sacred book entitled The Wing." 
     - Fr Festugiere, Revelation of Hermes 

"According to the legend... which had come from Lactantius, a father of the
Church, Hermes Trismegistus was supposed to
have foretold the coming of Christ. Hermes Trismegistus, in the book titled
The Perfect Word, made use of these words: 'The
Lord and Creator of all things, whom we have thought right to call God,
since He made the second God visible and sensible....
Since, therefore, He made Him first, and alone, and one only, He appeared
to Him beautiful, and most full of all good things;
and He hallowed Him, and altogether loved Him as His own Son.' The fraud
perpetrated by Neoplatonics of the second
century was that Hermes was supposed to have been living at the time of
Moses and his creation story and the quote which I
read you was all about 1,500 years before Christ. In reality it was dated
about the second century AD." 

"The Neoplatonics believed in a world spirit, and that one could coax the
spirit into matter through the use of the soul, which
was located midway between spirit and matter. This use of the soul is what
is known as magic. Augustine was revulsed by this
practice and strongly admonished Hermes for practicing such magic." 
     - Gerry Rose ,"The Venetian Takeover of England and Its Creation of
Freemasonry" 

"The Trismegistus, then, came under the influence of the early Christian
Gnostics, many of whom adopted large chunks of it in
defense of their 'heresies'. The most notable of these was Basilides, whom
the great psychologist Carl Jung believed to be either
a fragment of his own group soul guiding him in trance through the Seven
Sermons of the Dead, or himself in a former life. The
Valentinian Gnosis was also strongly Hermetical. The Gnostic flavor in the
Trismegistus literature is therefore obviously very
strong, so it will pay the student to strip away some of these
Christo-Gnostic overleaves in order to get a little nearer to the
Egyptian original." 
     - Murray Hope, Practical Egyptian Magic 




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>>I sold today, the X is why after other things telling me 
>>a strong down move is likely
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>Where are these lines drawn from and why ?
>Are they Babson lines ?
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