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Re: FUTR-Ratchford'sFDates/TTC



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It's been a while, (over a year I think) since RR closed out my
particpation in his list but I believe that RR's rule regarding
comments on his system were; if it's a good comment send it to the
list if you have bad comments or questions regarding TTC or FDates
send them to him privately.
Probably accounts for the present good feelings that you get from
participating in his list.  
Basically I found him to be tyrannical in his sponsership of the TTC
list and he made every effort to intimidate members.
Just one former particpants opinion.

Jeffrey Harteam wrote:
> 
> Bob Fulks Wrote:
> 
> I have been evaluating Rick's FDates service for several months and
> receive
> all recommendations and messages from his FDates email list with posts
> by
> lots of users.
> 
> While I have not yet taken the time to evaluate the signals objectively,
> I
> am very impressed with how happy his customers seem to be. On a list
> where
> any customer can post anything he or she wants, you would expect to find
> a
> normal mix of people who are happy and those who cannot make it work for
> 
> any of a number of reasons. But, so far, all I hear are very positive
> comments by essentially everybody. How many advisory services can say
> this?
> 
> Jeff Wrote:
> I used to be on the TTC list.  To make a long story short, I just have
> to say it was one hell of an experience.  In fact, I remember your name
> from the TTC list.  Are you trying to tell me that merely base your
> observation on the level of happiness of his list 'members' that you are
> satisfied with his 'gadget's performance?  Yes, there were lots of good,
> happy, and satisfied list 'members' on his list.  But for some strange
> reasons, I smell something bad there.  It sounded too good to be true
> and they didn't sound real to me and I question the integrity of Rick
> Ratchford.  By the way, he used to be a member of the Don Fisher's
> list.  More on that later.....
> 
> Bill Eykyn Wrote:
> You may not know, but there was a time when this list was inundated with
> F
> this and F that from Mr Ratchford, and I am sure it was his continual
> promotion of himself that drove away an awful lot of the good,
> experienced
> people from  RT.
> Time and time again, on this list, really experienced traders tried to
> get
> Rick Ratchford to say something that was concrete and tradable about his
> 
> F-dates, but we never ever got any answers.  From what he did post, it
> seemed to be a hotch-potch of hocus pocus and when it finally dawned on
> him
> that most of the list were bored by his efforts to recruit us, he left
> in
> high dugeon.
> 
> Jeff Wrote:
> My personal observation with the TTC list was that most of the list
> members were novice traders only but who had a very genuine interest to
> learn.  Rick claims that one doesn't need ANY other kind of indicators,
> Timing tools, wave counts, etc. to work along with his TTC and Fdates.
> To me, that was simply bulls***.  Any studious trader will tell you that
> the more confirmation you get from different methods, the more concrete
> is the trading setup.  He confused the hell out of his list members with
> HIS definition of a trend.  He copied ideas from some members who have
> good, solid, knowledge of market price actions.  Oh, talking about copy
> cat, weeks ago I had a chat with Don Fisher and he told me that Rick
> used to be a member of Don's list.  According to Don, he came and gone
> in a rush.  And what do you know, he started his own list with the same
> kind of approach of Don's months later.  As advertised, Rick will always
> be on your side if you encounter problems.  Yeah right, try to ask him
> questions like the ones we asked him on RTs.  He will take the piss on
> you!
> 
> Rick's Rule:
> The basis of the 3-day rule was devised for those who seem dependant on
> statistics. Many of the Fdates exceed the 3 day rule, but as cycles go,
> you
> will have several markets that at times will swing every 3 days during
> certain times of the year (volatility, etc.) and are picked up by the
> Fdate
> program. Very difficult to separate a cycle pivot from a cycle
> pivot.....
> ...With the introduction of the weekly dates (Wdates).....
> 
> Jeff Wrote:
> Previously, he'd introduced his T1 & T2 of Fdates, my God, now he's got
> his WDates, 3-day rules.  This guy never quits, I like his attitude :)
> I had never thought of subsribing Fdates when I was with the TTC list.
> To this day, I still think they are the same dif.  Yes, most of his
> pivots are not tradeable as Alan pointed out.  You want timing tools?
> Use NPs, Dynamic Traders....No affiliation with Kasanjian
> Research..........etc.
> 
> Have a good one
> Jeff Harteam
> Hong Kong