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Hi Mike,
yes, I, too, remember how I used to love programming in awk (sort of a
predecessor to Perl), and later in Perl. It was great fun! I admit I
sometimes felt real smug because of the enigmatic and mysterious use I had
made of the syntax... So I can certainly share your feelings here. :-)
As regards graphics toolkits for Python, there are quite a few. One of the
best is called wxPython (http://wxpython.org/). Just have a look at the
screenshots there, and I think you will be pleasantly surprised at the cool
user interfaces that this toolkit makes easy to program. Things are done the
Python way here, in just a few lines of code!
There are also excellent UI designers available for wxPython, such as
wxDesigner (http://www.roebling.de/) and BoaConstructor
(http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net/).
Best regards,
Michael Suesserott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gossland" <mgmail@xxxxxxx>
To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 21:20
Subject: Re: Uptick: Tick-based futures trading engine .NET or Java
> At 04:59 AM 5/3/2004, MichaelSuesserott wrote:
> >Hi Alex,
> >
> >isn't it strange how we are now speaking of Java code as "legacy code",
when
> >only a brief 6 years ago Java was still considered a grassroots movement?
> >
> >But I do agree with your analysis. In fact, as a former computer
scientist
> >turned trader I have lived through the COBOL-C-C++ transitions just as
you
> >describe them. (I even know COBOL which makes me feel like I'm 100 years
> >old). I made the move from Java to Python about two years ago, and
> >immediately fell in love with that powerful, terse, yet easy to use,
> >language. There is no doubt in my mind that programmers around the world
> >will soon see the benefits.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Michael
>
>
> I have been following these language comparisons with interest.
>
> I remember the joy of learning perl a number of years ago. It seemed like
everything in it was cool, and the motto "Timtowdti" or "there's more than
one way to do it" meant that you were free to approach problems in whatever
way felt right for you. Since then I have gotten a little rusty in Perl and
I have to agree a bit with Perl's critics - "it looks like line noise". If
you are up on perl, it is very cool, but if you are not, it's cryptic. I'm
starting to think that timtowdti may not be a strength but a weakness,
particularly when compared to Python's "we'll all do it the same standard
way" philosophy. So although I haven't done any serious Python programming,
I tend to think that it is the a language I'd like to learn well.
>
> The problem with Perl and Python, at least in the windows world, is that
they are fine for command line programs and behind the scenes crunching, but
tying them to a fully functional user interface is lame. I might be wrong,
but so far all the graphics toolkits I've seen don't easily support the same
complete control set as VB6 or .NET does, just basic widgets. For example,
Joel recently mentioned the Dundas chart control - could you easily use that
in a Python program? Until these tools can support all controls and make
them just as easy to program in they are as VB6 or .NET, I don't see them
becoming the tool of choice for apps that need cool user interfaces.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Mike Gossland
>
>
>
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