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If God meets the definition of "God" then by definition he had to let this
happen...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Ewers" <dbewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Omega List" <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: THE ANSWER, NOT (off topic)
> I too believe in God, and for those who ask how could God let this happen,
> the answer I heard this Sunday from Rev. John Crosby worked for me.
>
> "God did not let this happen, he is part of this, he agonizes with us, in
> this major battle of good vs evil, but know this, he is with us and always
> will be".
>
> It worked for me, hopefully for others . . .
> don ewers
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Prosper" <brente@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Omega List" <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: THE ANSWER, NOT (off topic)
>
>
> > This is a day late because I had a bad address.
> >
> > Incorrect. What you find at the heart of political fanaticism is hate,
and
> > the desire
> > for power and wealth.
> >
> > The need for faith in mystical things grew out of human needs and the
> > sentient crises that all
> > people experience.
> >
> > Using those needs for whatever purpose, is simply a tool used by many
> > to get what they want. People should not be gullible but that doesn't
> > mean that they wont have needs.
> >
> > All of which does not prove or disprove God. I believe in God. I refuse
to
> > believe that life is an accident and that all that is, just happened.
> > Consider this.
> >
> > Why don't those that do not believe in God just end this meaningless
> > existence. Excuses by the anti-God types will
> > be that they have a will to live, and have a some purpose to make
> something
> > of
> > themselves as an individual. My answer to which is, Why? Logically,
there
> > can be no purpose
> > in anything that is purely an accident. No matter what reason you find
to
> > exist it is going to be based on something mystical. I bet that these
anti
> > types find a reason to live,
> > that is a mystical belief in something.
> >
> > It would surprise many that frequently atheists and agnostics ask for
> > last rights before they die.
> >
> > Believe what you will, but don't expect others to buy that nonsense.
> >
> > Prosper
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > What you find at the heart of any political fanaticism is mysticism:
an
> > irrational belief in a "higher power" (the state (fascism), a god
(Islam,
> > among others), "the working class" (communism), race (Nazism, among
> others),
> > etc.) Every barbarism in history has been justified by reference to
some
> > mystical higher power. The current barbarism is no different.
> > >
> > > As long as any value is placed above the value of free life itself, as
> > long as belief in mystical "higher powers" exists, there will be those
> > willing to give and take the lesser value (life) in order to obtain, or
> > achieve the success of, the "higher" (mystical) value. And as long as
> that
> > is the case, there will be "terrorism".
> > >
> > > Pull the weed of terrorism up by the roots? Turn "the offending
> > countries" into parking lots? Do you honestly believe that this will
stop
> > "terrorism"?
> > >
> > > Let us be clear: what we are discussing now does not have much to do
> with
> > obtaining justice. The 18 or so perpetrators of the terrible acts in
New
> > York and Washington are all dead. There is no more justice to be
obtained
> > from them. Everything being done now is either justice at the margins
> > (punishing accomplices and the like) or it is about preventing future
> > similar acts. So the important question is: how are such future acts
to
> be
> > prevented? I submit the following: you may kill as many people as you
> > wish, but you will not stop terrorism as long as mystical beliefs in
> "higher
> > powers" exist anywhere.
> > >
> > > To those of you who believe that terrorism can be eradicated by a
> military
> > campaign I ask: How do you plan to find every person who is willing to
> give
> > his life (and take yours) for some "higher power"? Are you able to read
> the
> > minds of everyone on earth? Are you under the illusion that such people
> > live only in "foreign" countries? Do you believe that Islam is the only
> > mystical fanaticism that exists?
> > >
> > > So what is the answer? Increased security at airports? Will
increased
> > security prevent the boarding of martial artists who kill without
weapons?
> > More prayer vigils and remembrance services (fighting mysticism with
> > mysticism)? Singing patriotic or religious songs? Perhaps we should
> light
> > some more candles? Who's for bringing back the yellow ribbons from the
> > Carter years?
> > >
> > > No, the answer does not lie in Proverbs or in any of the above empty
> > gestures. The answer lies in reason. When reason trounces mysticism,
> when
> > ALL mysticism is seen for what it is, anti-life, only then will we have
> the
> > real weed by its roots.
> > >
> > >
> > > The Omega Man
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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