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I too believe in God, and for those who ask how could God let this happen,
the answer I heard this Sunday from Rev. John Crosby worked for me.

"God did not let this happen, he is part of this, he agonizes with us, in
this major battle of good vs evil, but know this, he is with us and always
will be".

It worked for me, hopefully for others . . .
don ewers

----- Original Message -----
From: "Prosper" <brente@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Omega List" <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: THE ANSWER, NOT (off topic)


> This is a day late because I had a bad address.
>
> Incorrect. What you find at the heart of political fanaticism is hate, and
> the desire
> for power and wealth.
>
> The need for faith in mystical things grew out of human needs and the
> sentient crises that all
> people experience.
>
> Using those needs for whatever purpose, is simply a tool used by many
> to get what they want. People should not be gullible but that doesn't
> mean that they wont have needs.
>
> All of which does not prove or disprove God. I believe in God. I refuse to
> believe that life is an accident and that all that is, just happened.
> Consider this.
>
> Why don't those that do not believe in God just end this meaningless
> existence. Excuses by the anti-God types will
> be that they have a will to live, and have a some purpose to make
something
> of
> themselves as an individual. My answer to which is, Why? Logically, there
> can be no purpose
> in anything that is purely an accident. No matter what reason you find to
> exist it is going to be based on something mystical. I bet that these anti
> types find a reason to live,
> that is a mystical belief in something.
>
> It would surprise many that frequently atheists and agnostics ask for
> last rights before they die.
>
> Believe what you will, but don't expect others to buy that nonsense.
>
> Prosper
>
>
>
>
> > What you find at the heart of any political fanaticism is mysticism:  an
> irrational belief in a "higher power" (the state (fascism), a god (Islam,
> among others), "the working class" (communism), race (Nazism, among
others),
> etc.)  Every barbarism in history has been justified by reference to some
> mystical higher power.  The current barbarism is no different.
> >
> > As long as any value is placed above the value of free life itself, as
> long as belief in mystical "higher powers" exists, there will be those
> willing to give and take the lesser value (life) in order to obtain, or
> achieve the success of, the "higher" (mystical) value.  And as long as
that
> is the case, there will be "terrorism".
> >
> > Pull the weed of terrorism up by the roots?  Turn "the offending
> countries" into parking lots?  Do you honestly believe that this will stop
> "terrorism"?
> >
> > Let us be clear:  what we are discussing now does not have much to do
with
> obtaining justice.  The 18 or so perpetrators of the terrible acts in New
> York and Washington are all dead.  There is no more justice to be obtained
> from them.  Everything being done now is either justice at the margins
> (punishing accomplices and the like) or it is about preventing future
> similar acts.  So the important question is:  how are such future acts to
be
> prevented?  I submit the following:  you may kill as many people as you
> wish, but you will not stop terrorism as long as mystical beliefs in
"higher
> powers" exist anywhere.
> >
> > To those of you who believe that terrorism can be eradicated by a
military
> campaign I ask:  How do you plan to find every person who is willing to
give
> his life (and take yours) for some "higher power"?  Are you able to read
the
> minds of everyone on earth?  Are you under the illusion that such people
> live only in "foreign" countries?  Do you believe that Islam is the only
> mystical fanaticism that exists?
> >
> > So what is the answer?  Increased security at airports?  Will increased
> security prevent the boarding of martial artists who kill without weapons?
> More prayer vigils and remembrance services (fighting mysticism with
> mysticism)?  Singing patriotic or religious songs?  Perhaps we should
light
> some more candles?  Who's for bringing back the yellow ribbons from the
> Carter years?
> >
> > No, the answer does not lie in Proverbs or in any of the above empty
> gestures.  The answer lies in reason.  When reason trounces mysticism,
when
> ALL mysticism is seen for what it is, anti-life, only then will we have
the
> real weed by its roots.
> >
> >
> > The Omega Man
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>